Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Chish

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Well the UK is like a giant petri dish for Coronavirus and has been for many months, giving ample time & room for completely random mutations to develop. We were behind only the US in total deaths for a long time and are still number 5 on the list. Death rate per capita was the highest in the world as of 17th Jan
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. I believe it's gone down now, but still grim.

It would be a miracle if there weren't many new variants coming out.

And yet, I get the impression that people are already feeling lax about the situation with the vaccination rate going up.
The impression I get is that some countries are full of selfishness, hatred of other races and systems that is preventing mankind from forming a united front to solve this evolving virus.
So many new strains in one year in so many counties and yet some countries are more interested in blaming others.
Perhaps this virus is mother nature answer to put the destructive human spices under control? To let the human spices unlimited continuous growth will eventually let to the destruction of all other species.
 

Chish

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The first lot of 300K doses of Sinopharm vaccines arrived in Cambodia on 7th Feb 2021 in a Y-20 aircraft. I never thought Y-20 would land in Cambodia. I missed a chance to see it with my own eyes. Sinopharm vaccines start rolling out in Cambodia today (10-Feb-2021). The H.E Hun Manet (eldest son of Prime Minister Hun Sen) to be the first one to take the shot.
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(As report is in Khmer language, you guys don't need to read what it says, just enjoy the photos)
Ironic that the son of Hun Sen was the first Cambodian to get vaccinated when Hun Sen would fired anyone who wears a mask at the start of the pandemic and personally welcomed a ship load of passengers banned from dis-embarking in other ports. Also said that Cambodian was not a rubbish bin for Chinese vaccines trials.
 
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localizer

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Wonder how losing 0.2% of the population and trillions in healthcare costs and stimulus and lost GDP will affect the US in the long run.
 

SteelBird

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Ironic that the son of Hun Sen was the first Cambodian to get vaccinated when Hun Sen would fired anyone who wears a mask at the start of the pandemic and personally welcomed a ship load of passengers banned from dis-embarking in other ports. Also said that Cambodian was not a rubbish bin for Chinese vaccines trials.
I am a Cambodian, I'm afraid some of the info you got is not correct.

Cambodians has habbit of wearing mask at work even before the pandemic. The rumors of dumping Chinese vaccines has been rejected by our ministry. Cambodia and China have very good friendship. I don't believe our government would say anything bad about China. At last, allowing the rejected ship was something political which I won't comment much about it.
 
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Chish

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I am a Cambodian, I'm afraid some of the info you got is not correct.

Cambodians has habbit of wearing mask at work even before the pandemic. The rumors of dumping Chinese vaccines has been rejected by our ministry. Cambodia and China have very good friendship. I don't believe our government would say anything bad about China. At last, allowing the rejected ship was something political which I won't comment much about it.
You could be right. I got my info from Australian media and media here are highly political.
 
Yep.

"We will work with our partners, and also draw on information collected and analysed by our own intelligence community,’ says a US State Department spokesman"

As was initially suggested by Morrison's team, That's the cue for Australia to lead their own independent analysis, verification and conclusion of origin of virus in Wuhan, China.
partners = AUSTRALIA.

Remember now back in April 2020 that Australian FM Marise Payne was demanding an independent investigation outside of WHO, lead by Australia and her co-conspirators to investigate the origin of the Virus in Wuhan, China.

There is only one findings the Anglo's will accept and that finding is predetermined.

Apparently it was not even slip of a tongue or misrepresentation based on media report on interviews and announcements. Here is Marise Payne Australian Foreign Minister herself on the Australian Foreign Ministry website. Essentially demanding an independent investigation outside of WHO, lead by Australia and co-conspirators to investigate the origin of the Virus in Wuhan, China.

She is just as malicious as Pompeo.

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Coronavirus: Australia can lead the way for a global response

22 April 2020

The COVID-19 pandemic has stopped the world. The death toll is heading towards 200,000 and beyond, and trillions of dollars have been stripped from the global economy. The impacts will grow.

Governments owe it to their people to work with the rest of the world to find answers, learn lessons and avoid repeats of this catastrophe. This week, Australia raised the importance of an independent international review to consider the genesis and spread of the pandemic, evaluate the different approaches to dealing with it, examine how information has been shared, and assess the engagement of the World Health Organisation in the response.

This is not a time for mistrust. The pandemic should not become one more lens through which existing rivalries are projected. We need facts that restore confidence and equip us to better address future challenges. No one country need feel singled out by the proposition of an international review. It is in the nature of a new infectious disease that it has to start somewhere. In this case, that place was Wuhan in China. However, by becoming a pandemic, COVID-19 is now a global problem. It is right that the world should seek answers and learn lessons.

That disinformation has spread shows the importance of collectively pursuing transparency. Liberal democracies are built on transparency and accountability. For a nation with a generations-long experience of democracy, these principles are instinctive. What Australia stands for at home will inform the agenda we pursue for the recovery internationally.

Australia is well-placed to call for a transparent international review into COVID-19 because we are a liberal democracy with a proud history of shaping constructive global co-operation. A global crisis such as this one, with its ramifications for health, economies, human rights and social cohesion, underscores the importance of countries with our values of openness and transparency being active in international forums.

To call for answers is to protect our national interests, values and sovereignty. The Prime Minister and I will carry this forward in our international engagements in the coming weeks.

The role of the WHO and its handling of the crisis should be part of this review. We want the WHO to emerge with an enhanced ability to respond to pandemics, wherever they begin. This is about building a more secure future in an interdependent world.

We need effective global institutions. They provide agreed standards, rules and norms by which sovereign states can engage and exchange information and goods, free from undue politicisation.

Australia will continue to advocate our values of openness and the rule of law to these institutions. It is not in Australia’s interests that countries retreat into themselves. Our prosperity depends on minimising disruption to supply chains and maintaining open trade and investment. It is also vital that liberal democracies such as Australia make their voices heard when it is clear countries are taking advantage of the pandemic to undermine human rights and subvert political and judicial processes.

We do not want to see authoritarian states make permanent, for instance, surveillance technology put in place to combat the spread of COVID-19. As a liberal democracy, our phone app to help contact tracing is single-purpose, proportionate and temporary.

Australia will work with partners with whom we have shared values and aligned interests as we shape the post-COVID-19 period. In the Indo-Pacific, our strengths lie in the foundations of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations. In our immediate neighbourhood, they lie in the coming together of the Pacific Islands Forum.

Australia will also work with all nations. The task for all of us must be to ensure we minimise the lives lost and the jobs destroyed, and maximise the lessons learnt.

Marise Payne is the Minister for Foreign Affairs.
 
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Gatekeeper

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That's how misinformation works.

It's the same with any snake oil salesman. Forces you to spend infinitely more effort to debunk their bullshit.

China doesn't have to give them shit

I think they should provide such data. When we publish our studies, everything related to these published work must be available to whomever wants to see it. We must sign forms to agree that we must provide detailed information on ALL materials used in our studies. All recipes and ingredients of our reagents (if we make them ourselves), along with company names, catalogue numbers and even batch numbers (along with expiration dates) of all purchased materials, must be provided. When someone contacts us and requests some of our reagents, DNA, proteins, cell lines, animal models, etc, we must provide them openly and freely. Everything and anything related to the published work must be openly available to everyone. This has been the custom. If we all agree that everything should be done scientifically, then they need to adhere to the accepted rules.

At one time, we submitted our manuscript to a journal, a reviewer suggested that we should put all our raw microscopic images on the journal's server. That's over a thousand images that almost no one will ever look at again. Yet, it is our responsibility to openly share all our materials. So we did exactly as the reviewer suggested. It is our duty to do so.

Guys this is relentless, FFS, WHO has given China the all clear, yet the MSM, well the BBC bullsxxt broadcasting company still refuses to let it go. This is how they work. Drip drip to beat you into submission.

The demonizing starts now.

Covid-19 pandemic: China 'refused to give data' to WHO team​

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China refused to hand over key data to the World Health Organization (WHO) team investigating the origins of Covid-19, one of its members has said.
Microbiologist Dominic Dwyer told Reuters, the Wall St Journal and the New York Times the team requested raw patient data from early cases, what he called "standard practice",
He said they only received a summary.
China has not responded to the allegation but has previously insisted it was transparent with the WHO.
The US has urged China to make available data from the earliest stages of the outbreak, saying it has "deep concerns" about the WHO report.
Last week, the WHO team concluded
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in the city of Wuhan, dismissing a controversial theory that emerged last year.
Wuhan was the first place in the world where the virus was detected, in late 2019. Since then, more than 106 million cases and 2.3 million deaths have been reported worldwide

China refused to hand over key data to the World Health Organization (WHO) team investigating the origins of Covid-19, one of its members has said.
Microbiologist Dominic Dwyer told Reuters, the Wall St Journal and the New York Times the team requested raw patient data from early cases, what he called "standard practice",
He said they only received a summary.
China has not responded to the allegation but has previously insisted it was transparent with the WHO.
The US has urged China to make available data from the earliest stages of the outbreak, saying it has "deep concerns" about the WHO report.
Last week, the WHO team concluded
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in the city of Wuhan, dismissing a controversial theory that emerged last year.
Wuhan was the first place in the world where the virus was detected, in late 2019. Since then, more than 106 million cases and 2.3 million deaths have been reported worldwid

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