Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

The Observer

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In the middle of a pandemic. And suffering 3rd lockdown in 12 months. The U.K. at least can rejoice in the fact our carrier is operational. Gee.


Another blessing might be that Brexit finally has a deal of some sort. That said, the idea of Brexit itself is one hell of a clusterf*ck from the start, not to mention in the middle of a pandemic AND being the first joint hotspot of a new variant with South Africa. I sure can see Boris go bald from the worry about his political future after the disastrous year of 2020.
 

vesicles

Colonel
Just got vaccinated (Moderna). So far so good. No adverse feeling yet. Fingers crossed. I will get partial protection in 5 days. And I will get my second dose in Feb. Finally, a little perk of being a part of health care system... Being exempt from any lockdown orders, I have never taken any time off even in the height of the pandemic, while everyone else enjoys their time working from home... Finally got something that others may be a little jealous about, I guess.

On another thought, I am acting as a guinea pig for all of y'all... I guess I lose either way... Oh well, I am glad to be of some use. Guess I'm a glass-half-full kinda guy...
Day 1 post vaccination... No systematic adverse effects. Slight local discomfort at the injection site when lifting the injected arm, as well as when the injection site is pressed with force. Pain level of 0.5 - 1 on a scale of 0 (no pain) and 10 (excruciating pain).
 

vesicles

Colonel
What do you think about the Brits deciding to extend the time to 12 weeks before giving the second shot?
I strongly strongly oppose it. Such time frame has never been tested by anyone. No one knows what will happen. The second shot is supposed to be a booster shot. If you wait too long, the first shot has lost its effects. What's there to boost if there is nothing left from the first shot to boost? Then you lose effects of the vaccine all together. What about side effects? We have no clue what the side effects could be. If there is one thing that I have learned through almost two decades of working with biological systems (graduate school, postdoc, faculty), it's that we should never assume anything with biological systems, be it as simple as a single cell or as complex as an entire human body. If you have experimented 1+1 = 2, never ever ever assume 1+2 = 3. NEVER! In my experience, when you deviate from an established protocol, nothing good will come out of it. Just the other day, I was upset with one of my students when he decided to skip a seemingly useless step in his experiments to save time. A month-long experiment went toast... Never ever ever deviate from an established protocol. Especially with an experimental vaccine as new as these COVID-19 vaccines, we should strictly adhere to the conditions that have been examined in clinical trials. I cannot stress this enough. Never ever ever divert from the established protocol.
 

supercat

Major
Sinovac's CoronaVac has an effectiveness rate of 78% and 300 million doses have been sold:
Officials in the state of São Paulo, where a prominent medical research institute carried out a large study of the vaccine made by the Beijing-based Sinovac, said the inoculation had an efficacy rate of 78 percent.

The vaccine prevented all participants from developing serious and mild complications from the virus, officials said, calling it a highly effective preventive tool.

In anticipation of approval, the vaccine, called CoronaVac, has already been shipped around the world as countries prepare for mass inoculation campaigns. Sinovac has sold more than 300 million doses, mostly to low- and middle-income countries, accounting for about half of the total doses that China says vaccine makers were capable of producing in 2020, based on an analysis of company statements and media reports.
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