Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[ansy1968]

I have a theory that people in underdeveloped nations have been already exposed to a large variety of bacteria and viruses, and may already be predisposed for heightened immunity to all diseases.

Hi Tam,

I'm not a medical worker , but from what I saw and experience ,Your theory has been proven to have some truth. People used to hardship and poverty may have develop some kind of immune system cause they're more expose to the element. Climate may also played a part as most of those underdeveloped nation are situated in the tropics or hot region.

And we will experience more of these, as the wealth gap between the haves and have not grew. If you lived in a big city , you will see it all around you, ghettos and homeless people living alongside the rich. Mother nature had a way of leveling the playing field by having the rich suffered more as they enclosed themselves in their secluded and air conditioned apartment or condo.

 

[plawolf]

Spalding can't keep straight their propaganda on China. When did China tell the US to lock-down the country when they charge China didn't warn the world?

Well, you can forgive him given the relentless barrage of BS propaganda Americans are subject to on a daily basis.

I mean, aren’t the American MSM bitching about China not having been able to prevent the virus from spreading to America? The only way that would make sense is if China was in charge of American boarder control and pandemic response. China should have told the US to close its boarders and lock down any areas with outbreaks. Very remiss of China to not meddle in American internal affairs!

I mean, meddling in the internal affairs of other sovereign countries is like a right of passage as far as the west is concerned in what a ‘responsible’ world power should be like, and China really should embrace its new responsibilities as in keeping with its growing national power and influence.

 

[B.I.B.]

Hi Tam,

I'm not a medical worker , but from what I saw and experience ,Your theory has been proven to have some truth. People used to hardship and poverty may have develop some kind of immune system cause they're more expose to the element. Climate may also played a part as most of those underdeveloped nation are situated in the tropics or hot region.

Then how come when people traveled from the old world to the new such as settlers colonizing NZ the indigenous people died from things such as the common cold and flu?

 

[ansy1968]

Then how come when people traveled from the old world to the new such as settlers colonizing NZ the indigenous people died from things such as the common cold and flu?

Hi B.I.B,

Cause they are secluded (NZ, the INCAS) and had never experience a foreign invasion before being colonized , the old world (europe and asia) had experience plague and wars and thru history as the Mongols expand their influence westward the interaction and exposure between races had been frequent. That's my analysis and the INCAS is a perfect example.

 

[canniBUS]

Hi B.I.B,

Cause they are secluded (NZ, the INCAS) and had never experience a foreign invasion before being colonized , the old world (europe and asia) had experience plague and wars and thru history as the Mongols expand their influence westward the interaction and exposure between races had been frequent. That's my analysis and the INCAS is a perfect example.

Sorry but this is half unscientific. The reason American natives had no immunity to old world infectious disease is because they were never exposed to those diseases, that much is true, but no amount of intra-american war and colonization would have changed that fact. Remember, the American natives were just as warlike other ancient societies, and both the Aztec and Inca subjugated diverse peoples of different ethnicities. The reason for their lack of immunity is simple, infectious diseases of the old world come from domesticated chickens, pigs, and cows, these diseases are not an attribute of human races. Chickens, pigs, and cows don't exist in the new world so there was no opportunity for American natives to develop immunity to diseases from these animals. As a result they died in large numbers after contact with infectious diseases from the old world.

 

[ansy1968]

Sorry but this is half unscientific. The reason American natives had no immunity to old world infectious disease is because they were never exposed to those diseases, that much is true, but no amount of intra-american war and colonization would have changed that fact. Remember, the American natives were just as warlike other ancient societies, and both the Aztec and Inca subjugated diverse peoples of different ethnicities. The reason for their lack of immunity is simple, infectious diseases of the old world come from domesticated chickens, pigs, and cows, these diseases are not an attribute of human races. Chickens, pigs, and cows don't exist in the new world so there was no opportunity for American natives to develop immunity to diseases from these animals. As a result they died in large numbers after contact with infectious diseases from the old world.

Hi canniBus,

Thanks bro for the info much appreciated, Like I said I have no background in the medical field so my post is more focus on history and politics. As you said the contacts between the two civilization lead to extinct of the other. What the Mongols had done is different from the Spaniard , they waged war , massacre, ravage the land and enslaved people. While the Spaniard due to long distance from home had to lived alongside with the natives. That long exposure had slowly infected the native.

 

[plawolf]

You are forgetting about the fact that western settlers waged effective biological warfare on the natives when they first arrived in America, with it being a recorded historical fact that blankets were deliberately infected with smallpox before being gifted to the natives. That alone would make any attempt to use historical events to analyse the current pandemic pointless.

 

[PiSigma]

It's really weird how COVID is working in the 3rd world

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There's underreporting, but they also ain't dying as much.
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The average age of subsaharan Africa is around 25 years ago. Europe, north america, and Asia are much older around 40ish or higher. So of course not many people are dying there.

 

[plawolf]

The average age of subsaharan Africa is around 25 years ago. Europe, north america, and Asia are much older around 40ish or higher. So of course not many people are dying there.

An unexpected consequence might be that they are becoming a giant incubator for super-Covid, with the new South African Strain of noticeably greater potency in infections.

 

[PiSigma]

An unexpected consequence might be that they are becoming a giant incubator for super-Covid, with the new South African Strain of noticeably greater potency in infections.

It is quite possible. I read a report on the weekend that WHO believe covid might become endemic, so everyone just take another vaccine every year.

The fact that it can easier transmit to different animals like minks and tigers means there are already reservoir pools even if we can wipe it out from human population.