Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Now imagine if this was reversed. Had it been reported that China obtained a sample of a western vaccine, there would be universal outrage in the western MSM, and all future Chinese vaccines would be claimed to be direct copies of the stolen western sample.
 

vesicles

Colonel
Somewhere in this thread or a similarly related one, there is a reported interview with Chinas most internationally renowned virologist on bat virus and head of the Wuhan lab Shi Zhengli. In it, she spoke of another bat virus that wasn't far off in might being able to make the jump to humans. Trouble is, what do scientists mean by not far...... a few years or decades?

These mutations are totally random. No one knows when any of these jumps will occur. It may take another thousand years for that key mutation of a key amino acid to take place. It may also happen tomorrow (let's say a hyperactive virus jumps onto a guy who is a heavy smoker. When exposed to a high dose of nicotine, a well-known mutagenic agent, DNA of the said virus might mutate more frequently... who knows). No one knows...

The only thing we can be sure of is that the more animal/human contacts you have, the higher the chances the jump would occur. The more jumps you have, you are giving the viruses more opportunity/experience to explore human defenses and figure out ways to defeat it. Using military practices as an example, it's like you are giving those virus soldiers more chances to practice their craft on human. These battle hardened virus soldiers will have a better chance of defeating their human hosts. The goal is to keep those viruses as greenhorns. The less contact the better.
 

localizer

Colonel
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It's very sad how the Western governments work with FLG TW HK Indian trolls to twist science to promote Western propaganda.

If Evolution made you the person you are, what's so hard to believe about a virus suddenly infecting humans.


If they accuse Chinese of making/releasing the virus, yet lay down and get screwed anyways, then they're simply racists.
 
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NiuBiDaRen

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It seems like Europe might actually be doing worse than USA right now in handling COVID. They have some seriously nasty outbreaks this past week. I think if Comrade Trump :p wants to win election, he should spin how Europe is doing worse than MAGA. That can win him a lot of precious votes. I mean, if people feel that Europe is doing worse, Trump could win the election again. "See, there are so many socialist European countries doing worse than us because they had lousy leaders" "If socialist Biden wins, we would become as bad as Europe"
 

vesicles

Colonel
It's very sad how the Western governments work with FLG TW HK Indian trolls to twist science to promote Western propaganda.

If Evolution made you the person you are, what's so hard to believe about a virus suddenly infecting humans.

Because the fact that a random virus accidentally infects a human sounds so boring. Conspiracy theories are sexier. Throughout history of humankind, every time something like this happens, you get conspiracy theories. The only difference is that this time around, it's an election year in the US and the virus happened to come from China. So all the conspiracy theories get extra fuel.

You would not believe the kinds of conspiracy theories that some lay people typically have for any kind of seemingly puzzling natural events, from all kinds of secret societies (free masons), to aliens (little grey people, green people, lizard people, etc), to time-traveling earth beings coming back from the future, to beings living in fifth/sixth/seventh/eighth/ninth/tenth/eleventh dimensions... The crazier your theories are, the more people will believe you.

Many think that these conspiracy theories are creative, and they must be creative people to believe these theories. Actually, they are the most boring and the least creative bunch. Any time some seemingly weird things happen, the only thing you can think of is some evil government plan or alien invasion? Come on guys, at least be a little more creative. The natural world is the most wondrous and packed with unbelievable stuff.
 

daifo

Captain
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A little off topic but also on-topic, i think part of Trumps rage against China is prob directly related to his financial losses from covid19 restricted travel/office work. Imagine waging a cold/hot war over personal vendetta. I guess that is why sometimes democracy becomes democrazy.
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taxiya

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Why don't they just you know ask, like Brazil Indonesia or UAE?
Probably don't want to rise Pompeo's ire or something like that.
I think the article actually said that was the reason that Israel used the Mossad/Military channel than Health Ministry. Think about it, how could or dare Israel to slap Trump/Pompeo's face by openly endorse Chinese vaccine when US just pressed some Arab countries to recognize Israel? That is a huge cake that Israel will not want to loose.
 
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