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ougoah

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Are you saying you are deliberately trolling to get Chinese nationalist fanboys banned from this forum. And you're taking credit for It?

Thieves a new low for you. Even right now members are saying a few post back of how you do make meaningful contribution on this forum. And now you blew all that out of the water. Gee.

No wait for it. Tomorrow you will say it us all a joke! Lol.

I think the silliness has been appropriately addressed now. Further talk in this direction is going to be a major waste of time.

Although Orthan's comment about how he's displeased with what "they have done in the past" is also pretty intriguing. I wonder what the world be like if every person lived in a way that properly addresses their displeasure at what some perceived injustice. I guess black people killing whites in some sort of US civil war would be totally righteous. Indians colonising UK. mmmmmm how that would warm my heart. If there is a God, please let that be hahaha. Now that's a joke.
 

Mr T

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Gatekeeper, given the SDF mods some credit. They've banned and blocked both parties in a flame war, not just the last one to say something.

But it's also apparent to me this isn't unique to Chinese nationalists. I see the exact same elsewhere.

Either there seem to be a disproportionately large amount of Chinese nationalists around these days or Chinese people aren't all that thick-skinned. Certainly when I was in China people seemed to get into arguments over hardly anything, such that the police never bothered to break the arguments up and just watched. Whereas in the UK the police separate people immediately.

If you want to maintain that Chinese people are super-cool and restrained, feel free to do so.

I'm sure you wouldn't respond well to someone saying to you "chill out it's just a joke" whatever the context it.

It might make me calm down and realise I'm being silly. At the very least it may make me understand the other person meant no offence.
 
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ougoah

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It might make me calm down and realise I'm being silly. At the very least it may make me understand the other person meant no offence.

People have the right to be offended but it doesn't mean they're justified in their initial reactions.

Totally true but this is the typical pseudo intellectual response that doesn't even address the dynamics of the ordeal. Both sides are equally justified in their emotional positions. That's all I'm saying. Please spare me from the usual right wing moron's auto-response about something to do with being offended and whatnot. Lol. What I said never implied the person is justified in their reactions. But it also doesn't mean they are not and that's important to understand.

In the context of the mask conversation, sure the joke is meh but at least shows you're not a total moron... otherwise some American CEO using a Huawei somehow also means they don't trust Apple?? I dunno something of that nature.
 

Gatekeeper

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I think the silliness has been appropriately addressed now. Further talk in this direction is going to be a major waste of time.

Although Orthan's comment about how he's displeased with what "they have done in the past" is also pretty intriguing. I wonder what the world be like if every person lived in a way that properly addresses their displeasure at what some perceived injustice. I guess black people killing whites in some sort of US civil war would be totally righteous. Indians colonising UK. mmmmmm how that would warm my heart. If there is a God, please let that be hahaha. Now that's a joke.

Careful here ougoah. I think it's best not go there. Lol

And as far as Mr T's assertion that
"Everyone got the right to be offended"line.

Call me a snowflake, but that's definately not true. Otherwise, we would be offending people left , right and centre. Calling people the N word, or Chinese C word. Or white people H word.

I teach at our local college. And if Mr T is a parent, I'm sure he wouldn't want me to teach his children to be such an insensitive moron.
 
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ougoah

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Either there seem to be a disproportionately large amount of Chinese nationalists around these days or Chinese people aren't all that thick-skinned. Certainly when I was in China people seemed to get into arguments over hardly anything, such that the police never bothered to break the arguments up and just watched. Whereas in the UK the police separate people immediately.



It might make me calm down and realise I'm being silly. At the very least it may make me understand the other person meant no offence.

For example go to a youtube clip of a Lockheed advertisement on F-35 and make a comment about how F-35s fall from the sky all over the place and the shady US gov is keeping all that buried like they've done with countless things in the past. You'll get hundreds of sensitive melting snowflakes on your ass. Do the same teasing anything American on The Drive Warzone and the same downvotes and comment responses that are almost entirely aimed at hurting the person making the comment. At least with Chinese nationalists, they usually correct the person and explain. Anyway it's easy to take that position and at the end of the day just say it was a joke relax etc etc.
 

Mr T

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otherwise some American CEO using a Huawei somehow also means they don't trust Apple?

Given the current anti-China tech climate in the US I'd find something on that subject amusing, especially if the CEO's company had close ties to the US government.

Back on topic, Trump's doctor is giving an update on his condition in just under half an hour.
 

ougoah

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Careful here ougoah. I think it's best not go there. Lol

Just pointing something out that I think westerners and pro-westerners are often failing to remember or notice.

For example the demands in the past that China make reparations for Covid. China is always held to a higher expectation and accountability than them. It suits them because they can't compete. Now those reparations talks are over... guess why?? Because now they've thought about it properly they noticed everyone else are going to ask them for reparations for Spanish flu (which was almost certainly American unlike Covid being certainly Chinese lol) and reparations for swine flu.... I remember HIV first being found in the US as well.... guess they're responsible for that one too since they noticed it first. There are thousands of documented diseases and pathogens discovered or originated in the west. All of those that have effected other countries are now up for reparation claims too.

Let's not draw the line there. A billion Indians need to demand reparations from the UK. Oh boyyyyyy is that going to be something. All those millions of pigs that needed to be discarded in China because of an American infection... that's a few billion USD down the drain.

I dunno how the native Americans are going to put a number to the damages caused by European settlers intentionally giving them blankets infected with smallpox. We're just scratching the surface here.

I don't like how group x acted to this person or that nation in year xxxx, therefore fuck them and I wish horrible things on them. Humans are fantastic, intelligent, and compassionate creature are we not? hahaha At least Chinese people aren't like that but boy oh boy some of the others are grandmasters at moaning about things when they're often worse than the people they complain about.
 

Chish

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If this is true, what is wrong with these people? Russia and Iran media are openly celebrating that Trump got Corona and China like usual is acting like a coward. Has the leadership not realized that Trump was never going to be soft on China?

I don't understand the entire obsession with stability. Do you think America became a super power without needing to fight? This is disgusting to me.
This shows that China is strong and confident of itself, does not need to celebrate others weakness.
Kind words from China actually hurt Trump more.
Stability achieved by China depends on the Chinese themselves, not by pleasing American (in spite of outside blatant attempts). Chinese economy, cities, and social cohesion are much more stable and peaceful than American's.
China become a superpower without fighting and can continue to advance peacefully.
 
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manqiangrexue

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If this is true, what is wrong with these people? Russia and Iran media are openly celebrating that Trump got Corona and China like usual is acting like a coward. Has the leadership not realized that Trump was never going to be soft on China?
You think it's because China doesn't dare celebrate Trump getting COVID? LOL If you had one gram of class in you, you'd know how bad it makes you look to celebrate someone's illness. Yes, we want out enemies to encounter misfortune, but when someone falls ill, the classy thing to do is always to wish him well, even if inside, you want him dead. In this case, I truly wish Trump well. The longer he lives, the longer the US remains in turbulence. If he died and Biden came in basically like a shell, letting experts do their jobs without hindrance, the US would be a stronger place and it would be the smoothest possible transition out of Trump's idiocy. But that aside, you never publicly celebrate someone's illness. It's a low low place that Iran and Russia should never have went. It makes you look exasperated and weak to go that low.
I don't understand the entire obsession with stability. Do you think America became a super power without needing to fight? This is disgusting to me.
There is no obsession with stability. If China truly just wanted stability, it would give up in its endeavors and allow Pax Americana to reign. China wants dominance, but it's going to sound like a monster and scare every country if China gives speeches saying it wants to beat everyone at everything. So it just says it wants peace and stability, just like everyone else. In case you haven't figured it out, politics isn't blabbing out everything on your mind as honestly as you can.
Stop worrying. Trump getting corona is making him and the US look like a fool. China should laugh not worry.
Yeah, totally. We laugh on the inside while on the outside, we wish him a smooth recovery while smirking. "Hope you die," "Told you so," is for low class small people.
it's always "China wants stability". I hate this mentality. China may want stability but the US wants to attack you. So there is a saying, if you want peace prepare for war.

China doesn't understand that by acting scared and weak is not going to do you any good. Do you really think the US won't attack China if China acts like a coward?

If you project strength, even if it's bluffing. That has a better chance of preventing the US from attacking you. Then acting weak and spineless.
See above. China doesn't act like a spineless coward for not yelling and posturing; you act like a childish imbecile for failing to understand even the most obvious of subtleties in politics and human psyche. China does not need to bluff; its strength and its results are real. China has always acted classy, speaking softly while acting aggressively to achieve China's goals. America does all the aggressive yelling but its actions are weak and limited. Tor example, China builds and develops island bases in the SCS and the US sails in circles cursing. I think you, (just like Tidalwave for some odd reason), prefer North Korean style where they have a bark louder than a jet engine but no bite. China's the strong and silent type, heard of it? Not the loud and useless type you like.
 
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