Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Rettam Stacf

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A sixth vaccine from China starts human clinical trial. Anhui Zhifei is a business unit of Chinese publicly listed Chongqing Zhifei Biological Products.

Chinese firm gets approval to begin human testing for potential coronavirus vaccine
  • China has approved a coronavirus vaccine candidate developed by Chongqing Zhifei Biological Products' unit to begin human testing, the company said in a filing on Tuesday (June 23).
  • The potential vaccine, co-developed by Anhui Zhifei Longcom Bioplharmaceutica and the Institute of Microbiology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, has received a certificate from the National Medical Products Administration to launch clinical trials.
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The new vaccine from Anhui Zhifei is a recombinant protein vaccine.
  • A recombinant protein vaccine involves using a specific piece of the virus, such as the spike protein of the antigen, to trigger a protective immune response, according to United States' National Institutes of Health. They are known to provide very strong protection and is very safe, though booster shots might be needed to get ongoing protection.
  • Some common recombinant vaccines include ones against Hepatitis B, influenza, whooping cough and Human papillomavirus or HPV.
  • The Chinese recombinant protein vaccine uses the spike protein of the novel coronavirus to elicit an immunological response, the institute said. It has been tested on mice and rhesus macaques and shown to produce highly potent virus neutralizing antibodies.
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All the previous 5 vaccines from China under human clinical trial are either the adenovirus vector vaccine or inactivated vaccine. This sixth vaccine gives China a wide variety of vaccine technology to fight the Covid-19.
 

j17wang

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One of China's leading vaccine expert thinks that this vaccine will cover the newly discovered Beijing strain of COVID-19 virus.

Chinese COVID-19 vaccine candidate the first to start phase 3 clinical trials worldwide

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Now spreading across global (i.e. "western") news sources...

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I expect most markets to soar tomorrow. Phase 3 is pretty much the point of no return, there are so many Chinese vaccines at Phase 3 now I would be shocked if all of them failed, its now incredibly likely China will have the first fully feasible COVID-19 vaccine ready out of the gate.

I don't think Moderna and Oxford vaccines are going fast enough, and judging from the lack of transparency for their Phase 1 results something may not be working correctly, otherwise they should be releasing far more details in Phase 1 reports by now. Especially troubling is that none of them have arranged for P2/P3 trials in Russia/India/Brazil/Middle East locations, as Europe will face the same issues as China in that there will not be enough people to complete testing.

While it is premature to declare victory at this point, lets be clear; the US over the past few months has politicized COVID to such an extent that if China does in fact get the first virus out the gates, this will undoubtedly be China's Apollo project, times 10. Its already been stated that China will provide the vaccine as a global public good and I presume the China/EU/India/US will likely work together to be able to inoculate most of the world (i.e. 5 billion doses) within a year.

If Phase 3 starts looking promising however, I think there is an opportunity for China to kick-start international inbound travel to China and offer a free vaccine shot on arrival at designated airports. Keep in mind the incredibly powerful incentive to international travelers (especially high income) of being able to visit ANY place right now outside their home country. If China can achieve a head start of even a few months in capturing high volumes of international travellers, this will present an amazing opportunity to respond against a Washington mis-information narrative that is the most vicious in China's modern history.
 

AndrewS

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Now spreading across global (i.e. "western") news sources...

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I expect most markets to soar tomorrow. Phase 3 is pretty much the point of no return, there are so many Chinese vaccines at Phase 3 now I would be shocked if all of them failed, its now incredibly likely China will have the first fully feasible COVID-19 vaccine ready out of the gate.

I don't think Moderna and Oxford vaccines are going fast enough, and judging from the lack of transparency for their Phase 1 results something may not be working correctly, otherwise they should be releasing far more details in Phase 1 reports by now. Especially troubling is that none of them have arranged for P2/P3 trials in Russia/India/Brazil/Middle East locations, as Europe will face the same issues as China in that there will not be enough people to complete testing.

While it is premature to declare victory at this point, lets be clear; the US over the past few months has politicized COVID to such an extent that if China does in fact get the first virus out the gates, this will undoubtedly be China's Apollo project, times 10. Its already been stated that China will provide the vaccine as a global public good and I presume the China/EU/India/US will likely work together to be able to inoculate most of the world (i.e. 5 billion doses) within a year.

If Phase 3 starts looking promising however, I think there is an opportunity for China to kick-start international inbound travel to China and offer a free vaccine shot on arrival at designated airports. Keep in mind the incredibly powerful incentive to international travelers (especially high income) of being able to visit ANY place right now outside their home country. If China can achieve a head start of even a few months in capturing high volumes of international travellers, this will present an amazing opportunity to respond against a Washington mis-information narrative that is the most vicious in China's modern history.

I see inbound travellers to China countering the Washington misinformation narrative as a minor benefit.

What would be far more powerful is millions of vaccinated Chinese businessmen, tourists and investments going back out into the world.
 

localizer

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US caught trying to swap non-medical masks into medical mask packaging to discredit China:

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Rivera described the repackaging operation as common sense. “All we’re doing is we’re just omitting,” he said. “We’re taking off anything that says ‘non-medical.’”

He blamed China for the confusion.

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“At this time, HSI, along with its law enforcement partners, is assessing these allegations in an effort to determine if any violations exist and/or if mishandling occurred,” the statement said.

This might be what happened to a lot of China mask shipments to the West. China always gets blamed so they do this to us.
 
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AssassinsMace

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I was watching CNN's weekly coronavirus report and heard something shocking. All those reports of vaccines in countries around the world that are being worked on and supposedly showing results have been from those companies that are developing vaccines own press releases. The only vaccine that has been peer-reviewed independently is the one from China.
 

Mcsweeney

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Looking at Canada, I have no doubts that far in excess of 43% of Chinese-Americans faced threats over COVID-19. Please stay safe and vigilant if you are in either US or Canada like myself.

Canadian media coverage of China is disgusting and just as bad or worse than the U.S. I swear to you that if a Canadian tourist were arrested in China because he raped and murdered a Chinese citizen in broad daylight with 30 witnesses, Canadian media would imply that he was arbitrarily arrested for political reasons in revenge for Meng Wanzhou being arrested in Canada. I'm not exaggerating whatsoever.
 

Mt1701d

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I was watching CNN's weekly coronavirus report and heard something shocking. All those reports of vaccines in countries around the world that are being worked on and supposedly showing results have been from those companies that are developing vaccines own press releases. The only vaccine that has been peer-reviewed independently is the one from China.
Tbh I am not too surprised, considering how hush hush the western vaccine companies are when concerning their progress and trail results.

The fact that the western media didn’t go ham on a full campaign concerning the Chinese vaccines probably have something to do with the fact they are peer-reviewed.
 

B.I.B.

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Hmmm, I understand that Moderna is set to begin a phase 3 Trial in early July with the intention of involving 30,000 patients. Would that mean, China National Biotec Group and Moderna are neck and neck in the vaccine development?
 
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Hmmm, I understand that Moderna is set to begin a phase 3 Trial in early July with the intention of involving 30,000 patients. Would that mean, China National Biotec Group and Moderna are neck and neck in the vaccine development?

I would say that Moderna already has a huge advantage in the form of having their man appointed as vaccine chief for Operation Warp Speed. Moncef Slaoui, former Moderna board of director prior to appointment, still has a big personal incentive to facilitate approval of Moderna vaccine.

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