Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Rettam Stacf

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LOL it'd appear China became rich already Yesterday at 10:25 PM

I didn't drink my early morning coffee yet, so: if it's one million cars costing 100 Grand each, China would spend 100b this way early

According to this report, car sales in China for 2019 / 2018 were as follow. Please do not choke on your coffee. We want you back on this forum.

Audi : 620,001 / 620,300
Mercedes-Benz : 595,486 / 513,108
BMW : 544,500 / 465,044

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If you do not trust the report above, here is another one for validation. It is for 2019 Jan-May. But your can extrapolate from the data.

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We are drifting off thread topic. I shall stop here.
 

Gatekeeper

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Gee, more Pompeo drivel. This claimed without backup proof is all too much. Let's point a finger at China, and if we do it enough time people might believe us! This coming from the same man who's a former CIA chief, and was on records of saying we (The USA), "we cheat and we lies"!

Coronavirus outbreak

Mike Pompeo: ‘enormous evidence’ coronavirus came from Chinese lab

Secretary of state does not provide any evidence to back claimTrump aide unclear on whether claim is virus was manmadeCoronavirus US: latest newsCoronavirus outbreak: full coverage

Julian Borger in Washington

Sun 3 May 2020 22.12 BST

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Gatekeeper

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When I speak of Al Jazeera I am not only talking about his influence in the Western world, but his influence especially in the Arab world
to such an extent that one of the reasons for the blockade of Qatar by Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries was the al jazeera channel.

But this is an example of how a small country like Qatar can build an influential channel, even on youtube Al Jazeera is really popular, no Arab channel competes with it.

China ? on the chinese media youtube channels we see panda pictures with classical music, how do you want to target an audience from the west?

Even the enemies of China (falun gong) have a much better propaganda (NDTV, the Epoch Times)

Russia understands this and the RT channel is much more influential (especially on the web) than the Chinese media

China can invest billions in more effective propaganda and media to target a western audience

China must boost its soft power because of Western media attacks on all subjects (Hong Kong, debt trap, Xinjiang) the voice of China cannot be heard

Chinese media are runned by 70-year-old bureaucrats who don't understand the Western mentality, they must replaced by young Chinese who have studied in the West

China is trying to become more aggressive, we see it in particular through its ambassadors and diplomats who have all created a twitter accounts to express themselves to the world, now I hope they will adapt their media to target an audience in the west

You are really arguing by yourself here. You keep saying Al Jazeera is successful, etc. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying there are successful because they are pro--western, and therefore are allowed a free ride.

I'm not saying China doesn't need to up their game. But as mentioned by Manqiang it is waste of time trying to be proactive in their own turf. All the negative stuff you hear about China comes from outside China. And China can't control that.
 

Gatekeeper

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According to this report, car sales in China for 2019 / 2018 were as follow. Please do not choke on your coffee. We want you back on this forum.

Audi : 620,001 / 620,300
Mercedes-Benz : 595,486 / 513,108
BMW : 544,500 / 465,044

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If you do not trust the report above, here is another one for validation. It is for 2019 Jan-May. But your can extrapolate from the data.

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We are drifting off thread topic. I shall stop here.

Guys, as much as I love economic stuff. I think it might be best to take this over to the Chinese economic thread.
 

supersnoop

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Interesting story
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A lot of hype in Canada for this testing device before. Now it’s found to be not that accurate. (Not) surprisingly, no stories about poor quality of Canadian manufacturing or evil putting profits before people.

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2 months ago, Canada was so proud of this guy. Now the government wants him to “answer” to what the WHO was doing. I’m glad he is not showing up. He deserves better.

Off-topic bit
Canada has a long history of backstabbing one-time heroes. Did the same thing to 1980’s gold medallist Ben Johnson, he took steroids, but Carl Lewis also took drugs. The difference is USA did everything to defend Lewis, Canada hung Johnson out to dry.
 

bajingan

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Gee, more Pompeo drivel. This claimed without backup proof is all too much. Let's point a finger at China, and if we do it enough time people might believe us! This coming from the same man who's a former CIA chief, and was on records of saying we (The USA), "we cheat and we lies"!

Coronavirus outbreak

Mike Pompeo: ‘enormous evidence’ coronavirus came from Chinese lab

Secretary of state does not provide any evidence to back claimTrump aide unclear on whether claim is virus was manmadeCoronavirus US: latest newsCoronavirus outbreak: full coverage

Julian Borger in Washington

Sun 3 May 2020 22.12 BST

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Just like the us have "enormous evidence" that saddam has nukes right lol and we all know how that went
 

Chish

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China must abandon the "Soviet" journalistic style and adapt to a Western audience to make its voice heard better

This crisis highlight the lack of soft power of China, China has no influential media and don't have a strong voice in the West

China must invest in more modern media to target a western audience (No one is watching Cgtn, xinhua or others), it must take example from how little Qatar succeeded in founding Al Jazeera
In the West (especially America & Australia), any Chinese news agency is regarded as an official Chinese government agency. As such they are operated under strictly controlled conditions with everything negative thrown at them. No Chinese news agency, even anti-China ones from outside China are taken seriously by the general public in the West & South Asia/South Pacific. They just don't care, not interested. Their minds have been conditioned from young with a few exceptions. It is not only against Chinese government, but also against ordinary Chinese. Hence are calling for their supply chains away from China and racism is common against Chinese. A catch 22 situation of Chinese success.
 

coolieno99

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Reasons why Wuhan Lab is not the source of the outbreak. Posted by "CMP" at CDF.

May 2, 2020
American Researcher Who Worked In Wuhan Virology Lab Says It’s Unlikely Coronavirus Escaped From There
'It’s highly unlikely this was a lab accident,' says Jonna Mazet.
a researcher works in a laboratory
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Aaron Homer

An American scientist who worked at the Wuhan virology laboratory says that it’s highly unlikely the novel coronavirus escaped from there, despite conspiracy theories that suggest otherwise.

As Business Insider reports, the Wuhan Institute of Virology is at the center of a conspiracy theory that holds that SARS‑CoV‑2 (the official name of the virus that is currently causing a worldwide pandemic) managed to make it out of the laboratory. Though there is no evidence to support the theory and scientists believe it jumped naturally from bats to humans through an intermediary host, the theory persists.

Jonna Mazet, an epidemiologist at the University of California, Davis, has spent time working in that laboratory and training researchers there. She said that it’s extremely unlikely that the novel coronavirus escaped from that lab, and she laid out the reasons why.

Specifically, she said that the laboratory has strict safety protocols in place.

For example, active virions brought into the lab are split into separate containers, with half chemically deactivated, the other half kept “living” (although it bears noting that viruses aren’t living organisms in the strictest sense). The active pathogens are then dipped in liquid nitrogen, rendering them inactive until they’re thawed and reactivated. Researchers studying the virions analyze the chemically-deactivated ones that can’t spread and reproduce. The “living” ones are kept, frozen, in a secure area.

What’s more, Mazet says that researchers collecting samples in the field “wear extreme personal protective equipment, including multiple layers of gloves, eye protection, full body suits, and masks.”
a researcher works in a laboratory

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Mazet is not the first person affiliated with the Wuhan laboratory to publicly state that its safety protocols would prevent a virus from accidentally escaping the facility. As reported at the time by The Inquisitr, Yuan Zhiming, the vice director of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, claimed that it’s all but impossible the virus could have gotten out, in light of the facility’s safety procedures.

“We have a strict regulatory regime and code of conduct of research, so we are confident,” he said at the time.

Mazet pointed to other reasons why she’s confident SARS-CoV‑2 didn’t escape from the Wuhan lab. For example, she noted the research of her colleague, Shi Zhengli, revealed that the genetic structure of the novel coronavirus doesn’t match that of any viruses being studied in the lab. Further, Mazet notes that the COVID-19 pandemic is just the latest in a long line of animal-to-human transmission of diseases, and is the seventh such viral disease observed in the last century.

Finally, she noted that the people most likely to contract and spread a virus aren’t the people who work in a laboratory, but rather everyday people. Such people tour caves where virus-carrying bats reside, and hunt and eat animals that may be carriers of a virus

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