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would you comment on some NIH vaccine from
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She was using languages like “may” and “could be” a lot in her conversation. What she meant was, pending the most successful and the smoothest clinical trials under the best circumstances, the fastest possible time for the vaccine to come out would be sometime in the Fall. Of course, these conditions will never happen in the real world...

Also, she said “particularly under my direction” at one time. Scientists almost never use languages like that. “My team”, “my group” or “colleagues and I” would be much better. We never use languages like “Under my direction”...
 

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In Germany, the Robert Koch Institute wrote a similar scenario in 2012. There the hypothetical virus was called Modi-SARS and it would have killed 8 million Germans in three waves over three years (unfortunately in German, the scenario begins on page 55:
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from 03 JAN 2013).

I think all state epidemic agencies have had sandbox games developed at some point.
 
Coronavirus: green light for human trials on two more Chinese vaccine hopefuls
  • Medical products watchdog gives approval for clinical tests for two experimental preparations, with more expected to follow
  • Study of therapeutic use of plasma from recovered patients also yielding positive early results, official says

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Nine regions launch survey of coronavirus

By WANG XIAOYU in Beijing and LIU KUN in Wuhan | CHINA DAILY | Updated: 2020-04-15 09:35

Checks for asymptomatic people and immunity levels aid anti-virus efforts

China has launched a major epidemiological survey of the novel coronavirus in nine provincial-level regions, including hardest-hit Hubei and its provincial capital Wuhan, in order to evaluate the scale of asymptomatic infections and immunity levels across the population, and thus assist in the facilitation of upcoming epidemic-control measures.

On Tuesday in Wuhan, lines began forming at a sports stadium in Jiangxia district, where workers collected blood samples and throat swabs from residents who were randomly selected from local communities to take part in the survey.

Nucleic acid tests using throat swabs will reveal asymptomatic infections, and tests for antibodies in blood samples are expected to help researchers determine if a person has been infected or if an immune response has been generated.

"The goal is to understand the antibody levels in communities and provide scientific evidence for future adjustments in strategies to control the epidemic," Ding Gangqiang, head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention's National Institute for Nutrition and Health, said on Tuesday. He is also in charge of epidemiological research in Wuhan.

Ding added that the testing program will facilitate the detection of asymptomatic cases-people who are infected but show no symptoms-which is among the chief concerns of epidemic-control authorities guarding against a fresh wave of infections.

"The survey is of great urgency and significance, and its results will enable us to take targeted prevention and control measures after we completely prevail over the disease," he said.

Other regions that are involved in the survey are Beijing, Shanghai and Chongqing municipalities as well as Liaoning, Jiangsu, Zhejiang, Guangdong and Sichuan provinces.

Wuhan will enroll 11,000 of its 11 million residents in the survey. The sample collection procedure, starting on Tuesday, is expected to be completed by Thursday, according to the local government.

Survey participants-the majority of them regular residents, along with a small number of virus control workers such as security guards, taxi drivers and volunteers-come from 100 different communities across the city's 13 districts. The population and the tally of infections in each district are taken into consideration to determine each area's sample size.

A 72-year-old resident surnamed Yu said his entire family of six was selected for the survey.

"I was informed of the testing on Sunday, and the whole process on Tuesday took about 15 minutes," he said. "Because some asymptomatic cases have emerged recently, I believe that such tests are beneficial for myself, my family and the entire society."

Ding, from the China CDC, added that an education campaign is also being rolled out in tandem with the sample collection to help spread awareness about disease prevention and control knowledge.

Although China has basically blocked the local transmission of the virus, medical experts have warned that much remains unknown about the novel coronavirus and that the task of fending off a new surge of cases remains daunting.

On Monday, the leading group of the Communist Party of China Central Committee on coping with the epidemic also stressed during a meeting that swiftly expanding testing will not only reassure the public but also help bolster the resumption of work nationwide.




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This is big -- doing randomized tests in nine regions to check for degree of asymptomatic spread is a pretty big step.
 

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Nine regions launch survey of coronavirus

By WANG XIAOYU in Beijing and LIU KUN in Wuhan | CHINA DAILY | Updated: 2020-04-15 09:35

Checks for asymptomatic people and immunity levels aid anti-virus efforts

China has launched a major epidemiological survey of the novel coronavirus in nine provincial-level regions, including hardest-hit Hubei and its provincial capital Wuhan, in order to evaluate the scale of asymptomatic infections and immunity levels across the population, and thus assist in the facilitation of upcoming epidemic-control measures.

On Tuesday in Wuhan, lines began forming at a sports stadium in Jiangxia district, where workers collected blood samples and throat swabs from residents who were randomly selected from local communities to take part in the survey.

Nucleic acid tests using throat swabs will reveal asymptomatic infections, and tests for antibodies in blood samples are expected to help researchers determine if a person has been infected or if an immune response has been generated.

"The goal is to understand the antibody levels in communities and provide scientific evidence for future adjustments in strategies to control the epidemic," Ding Gangqiang, head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention's National Institute for Nutrition and Health, said on Tuesday. He is also in charge of epidemiological research in Wuhan.

Ding added that the testing program will facilitate the detection of asymptomatic cases-people who are infected but show no symptoms-which is among the chief concerns of epidemic-control authorities guarding against a fresh wave of infections.

"The survey is of great urgency and significance, and its results will enable us to take targeted prevention and control measures after we completely prevail over the disease," he said.

Other regions that are involved in the survey are Beijing, Shanghai and Chongqing municipalities as well as Liaoning, Jiangsu, Zhejiang, Guangdong and Sichuan provinces.

Wuhan will enroll 11,000 of its 11 million residents in the survey. The sample collection procedure, starting on Tuesday, is expected to be completed by Thursday, according to the local government.

Survey participants-the majority of them regular residents, along with a small number of virus control workers such as security guards, taxi drivers and volunteers-come from 100 different communities across the city's 13 districts. The population and the tally of infections in each district are taken into consideration to determine each area's sample size.

A 72-year-old resident surnamed Yu said his entire family of six was selected for the survey.

"I was informed of the testing on Sunday, and the whole process on Tuesday took about 15 minutes," he said. "Because some asymptomatic cases have emerged recently, I believe that such tests are beneficial for myself, my family and the entire society."

Ding, from the China CDC, added that an education campaign is also being rolled out in tandem with the sample collection to help spread awareness about disease prevention and control knowledge.

Although China has basically blocked the local transmission of the virus, medical experts have warned that much remains unknown about the novel coronavirus and that the task of fending off a new surge of cases remains daunting.

On Monday, the leading group of the Communist Party of China Central Committee on coping with the epidemic also stressed during a meeting that swiftly expanding testing will not only reassure the public but also help bolster the resumption of work nationwide.




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This is big -- doing randomized tests in nine regions to check for degree of asymptomatic spread is a pretty big step.


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For example, that article mentioned the Cambridge study that quoted the reduction in "95 percent of cases" if action had been taken sooner. What they don't mention is that study also said that the model shows that the actions taken were able to reduce caseload by 75%. I've seen this "95%" number quoted indirectly at least 5 different times.

Now with 20/20 hindsight, they are saying that if China had acted earlier, things would have been much better. But when China actually quarantined and locked down Wuhan, the Western MSM just kept bashing China that such measures would not succeed, and worse, might backfire. China just cannot do anything right. Below are just some examples:

Will the Largest Quarantine in History Just Make Things Worse?

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Coronavirus: China has quarantined 50 million people. Experts worry that might backfire

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Why we should be skeptical of China’s coronavirus quarantine

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Would the Coronavirus Quarantine of Wuhan Even Work?

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A Travel Ban To Contain The Coronavirus Could Worsen Conditions In Wuhan

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Situation in the U.S. on April 15 at 8:00 pm EDT:
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On April 15, excluding Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan, there are 12 domestic cases, the most in recent weeks. Of these, 5 is from Guangdong (African community?) and 4 from Heilongjiang (Russia?). There are 34 new imported cases. There is no death nationwide. There are 64 new asymptomatic cases. There are 3 new imported suspected cases and 1 new domestic suspected case. Severe cases finally dropped below 100 to 95. There are 77,892 cured cases and 1,107 existing cases.
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I remember early on CNN spent a day bragging that US scientists helped China sequence the DNA for coronavirus. They made it sound like it was all the US but that's like saying when China helped sequence DNA for the Human Genome Project, China did it all. If true that the US helped then they knew early on as much as China when Trump said China didn't help by passing any samples. I already know that's not how it works because the DNA sequence can be passed digitally to which China did so everyone in the world could create tests for it.

Now there's the story that the US is investigating if coronavirus was an accidental leaked from the lab in Wuhan. A US military official even said it doesn't look like coronavirus was engineered. If it wasn't engineered and they think it was accidentally leaked from a lab, then coronavirus existed long before. How would they know about a new virus to even store it? If it wasn't engineered then it would have to have existed before for this lab in Wuhan to recognize it? How did that happen? People we sickened by it before? The Chinese couldn't control coronavirus this time but somehow they were about to get a sample sometime before. To suggest it says this is not a new virus and they certainly don't act surprised that it's not new by this accusation that it was accidentally leaked.
 
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