Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

coolgod

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Cremation figures were briefly posted on official Chinese website for 1 province during the period of covid outbreak. Rough estimation from those numbers calculated for the rest of China would come up with 1-1.5 million excessive deaths. IMO, death toll is higher than official gov 80k figure.

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NYTimes claiming that China's true covid death toll is significantly higher? Hmm when have I heard that before?
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tokenanalyst

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Cremation figures were briefly posted on official Chinese website for 1 province during the period of covid outbreak. Rough estimation from those numbers calculated for the rest of China would come up with 1-1.5 million excessive deaths. IMO, death toll is higher than official gov 80k figure.

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Prophecy. Like I said before if the Chinese goverment let this virus spread wildly they are not going to count the death, but i think the numbers are more likely to be from 300K to 400K deaths.
 
Cremation figures were briefly posted on official Chinese website for 1 province during the period of covid outbreak. Rough estimation from those numbers calculated for the rest of China would come up with 1-1.5 million excessive deaths. IMO, death toll is higher than official gov 80k figure.

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Assuming the estimate of 1-1.5 million excess deaths is correct, that works out to 700~1050 excess deaths per million.

For comparison, below are cumulative reported
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for some selected countries/territories.

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Note that cumulative excess deaths since March 2020 for most of the above countries/territories are significantly higher than their reported COVID death numbers, e.g. Japan's total excess deaths since March 2020 is 1690 per million.

NYTimes claiming that China's true covid death toll is significantly higher? Hmm when have I heard that before?
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Prophecy. Like I said before if the Chinese goverment let this virus spread wildly they are not going to count the death, but i think the numbers are more likely to be from 300K to 400K deaths.

I wouldn't trust this from this same select group from New York Times. They have been pushing this narrative repeatedly as new revelation. see
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Note the graph only shows the reported covid death rate for countries other than China.

They are dishonestly comparing China mortality rates against reported covid rates from selected countries. We know that the mortality rate in the US is also higher than the reported Covid death as evidenced by the reduced US life expectancy.

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December 17, 2023

Chinese scientists published first study on long COVID at 3 years after primary infection

Chinese scientists have published the first study on long COVID three years after the primary infection.

According to the latest study jointly conducted by teams led by Cao Bin from China-Japan Friendship Hospital and Zhang Dingyu, head of Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital, approximately half of COVID-19 survivors exhibited at least one sequelae symptom after three years from the onset of symptoms.

The most prevalent long COVID symptoms reported were fatigue or muscle weakness, and hair loss. The study, * published in The Lancet’s respiratory medicine version on December 21, noted that compared with survivors without long COVID, those with long COVID had a higher proportion of re-infection and were more prone to pneumonia after re-infection….

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luminary

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“Missouri’s overarching theory is that China leveraged the world’s ignorance about COVID-19,” Judge David Stras wrote in the ruling. “One way it did so was by manipulating the worldwide personal-protective-equipment market. Missouri must still prove it, but it has alleged enough to allow the claim to proceed beyond a jurisdictional dismissal on the pleadings.”

The lawsuit, filed in April 2020, alleged that Chinese officials are “responsible for the enormous death, suffering, and economic losses they inflicted on the world, including Missourians.”

Neither the Chinese government nor any other Chinese defendant named in the case has responded to the lawsuit in court.
 

taxiya

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Prophecy. Like I said before if the Chinese goverment let this virus spread wildly they are not going to count the death, but i think the numbers are more likely to be from 300K to 400K deaths.
You reached this conclusion just by "thinking"? Making up a number without solid data input is as bad as delibrately under reporting.
 
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taxiya

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I wouldn't trust this from this same select group from New York Times. They have been pushing this narrative repeatedly as new revelation. see
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Note the graph only shows the reported covid death rate for countries other than China.

They are dishonestly comparing China mortality rates against reported covid rates from selected countries. We know that the mortality rate in the US is also higher than the reported Covid death as evidenced by the reduced US life expectancy.

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It is the same "method" of calling Chinese dumping/predatory pricing by using their production cost as benchmark instead of China's domestic cost. They say since I am bad in keeping people alive, China must be worse or at least equally bad.
 

tokenanalyst

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You reached this conclusion just by "thinking"? Making up a number without solid data input is as bad as delibrately under reporting.
Simple math base on the presumed death rate of SARS COV2 variant at the time and how fast the virus could spread base on population density before the epidemic burns out itself.

At the end of the day doesn't matter I said if they let this virus spread they would not count the death and guess what?

Is over move on.
 
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