Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[Icmer]

And what does you post proved Winston? Are you for real dude? How about the number of people who have actually died even after taking your super duper vaccines? (Pfizer, MODERNA, Johnson and Johnson etc.) not to mention the actual VACCINE Injury these vaccines have caused, as the case with the doctor on that YouTube video I linked.

If what you're suggesting that using Chinese vaccine is akin to having no protection from Covid-19 then due to the fact that some doctors died, then you're just peddling comedy. In terms of the Chinese vaccine, in this case, SinoVac being linked to Bells palsy, has there been an actual large scale study beyond what was done in Hong Kong, China to support your claim conclusively. Reading through the link you posted, any person with a political agenda would be able to literally pick bits and pieces of the lancet study to both support and refute for and against SinoVac vaccine regarding causality to bell's palsy.

Just an example of what's written on the study:



And there's this:



It's not exactly clear cut as the way you paint the vaccine to be. It's clear, from your responses thus far, that you're aim is to nitpick, complain in ideological bad faith regarding China's politics not policies. You're not here to debate with clear ethical intent, you're here to astroturf this topic and infect as with your political virus.

Go get yourself your 3rd,4th,5th Pfizer vaccines for all I care, go ahead if that's how you float your boat. Quit sniping us with politics.

You don't understand nuance and are only capable of interpreting this as an ideological battle. China's experts are saying heterologous boosting is ideal vs. homologous inactivated boosting, with either the inhaled/intramuscular CanSino or the Zhifei/Clover protein vaccines they approved. By the way, the CanSino vaccines use the same adenovirus vector technology as the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. The Bell's palsy correlation may be a fluke, but it doesn't change the fact that even China's own experts have released sufficient data to warrant their support for recommending the other types of vaccines they approved.

 

[B.I.B.]

For @Icmer @Petrolicious88 @henrik @Overlord had to include the Indian fella here who loves to provide lecture on what China should be doing, ought to be doing etc..which is typicaI Indian blabbering. How in the world Indians like yourself find the chutzpah to critique China's affairs on just about anything is BEYOND COMEDY. I am not sorry for insulting your country, but your country would be the last thing we would ever take advice from on anything period. America, Japan, South Korea, and Europe sure, India? GTFOH.

They can't be all bad. Some time ago I read that Mao's personal physician was an Indian.

 

[Icmer]

And what does you post proved Winston? Are you for real dude? How about the number of people who have actually died even after taking your super duper vaccines? (Pfizer, MODERNA, Johnson and Johnson etc.) not to mention the actual VACCINE Injury these vaccines have caused, as the case with the doctor on that YouTube video I linked.

If what you're suggesting that using Chinese vaccine is akin to having no protection from Covid-19 then due to the fact that some doctors died, then you're just peddling comedy. In terms of the Chinese vaccine, in this case, SinoVac being linked to Bells palsy, has there been an actual large scale study beyond what was done in Hong Kong, China to support your claim conclusively. Reading through the link you posted, any person with a political agenda would be able to literally pick bits and pieces of the lancet study to both support and refute for and against SinoVac vaccine regarding causality to bell's palsy.

Just an example of what's written on the study:



And there's this:



It's not exactly clear cut as the way you paint the vaccine to be. It's clear, from your responses thus far, that you're aim is to nitpick, complain in ideological bad faith regarding China's politics not policies. You're not here to debate with clear ethical intent, you're here to astroturf this topic and infect as with your political virus.

Go get yourself your 3rd,4th,5th Pfizer vaccines for all I care, go ahead if that's how you float your boat. Quit sniping us with politics.

Here is one such study they used to support protein vaccine boosting after inactivated:

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There are also recent snippets of Zhong Nanshan on the Chinese internet calling for people to boost with the CanSino Ad5 vaccine after the inactivated primary series.

 

[Petrolicious88]

And you should be humble too. You were one of the main critics of zero covid and, according to your prior posts, people just need to eat well and rest to increase their immune system and decrease severe COVID infection. Then after China opened up, you were quick to blame the government for not handling the opening properly. So your flip flopping is quite disingenuous.

Isn't eating clean and getting adequate rest the best ways to maintain healthy immune system. Healthy people usually do not have severe Covid. I was against the lockdowns, frequent quarantines, etc.. its just not the best way to combat omicron. The government should have opened sooner instead of waiting until after the party congress. I stand by that opinion. Haven't said anything about the current situation, lol.

Sure India issues are not all bad, but they also fucked up on the covid infection, they really shouldn't lecture to others.

These travel limitations are all political. When japan was having 100k infections, no one placed limit on their citizens to travel. Mass infections in other countries are "transparent" even if they don't check anymore but in china it's "not transparent". Give me a break. That hypocrisy is pretty obvious.

I think any Chinese travellers should avoid any country with those subjective travel limits. Chinese media should make it known to the citizens that these countries are politicizing covid against the Chinese again. They obviously don't want Chinese traveller, why even go there. That's just low self esteem.

Chinese people can travel where they like.

 

[Icmer]

Here is one such study they used to support protein vaccine boosting after inactivated:

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There are also recent snippets of Zhong Nanshan on the Chinese internet calling for people to boost with the CanSino Ad5 vaccine after the inactivated primary series.

Here are the studies that Zhong Nanshan used to justify Ad5 boosting over inactivated:

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[Petrolicious88]

Who's Indian, who's Chinese. Who cares? You're probably Indian, just admit it, nothing wrong with being one. Am Chinese, and darn proud of it. So no, only a self-hating fella would utter such nonsense. It's like saying that there's no difference between a chronic gambler and a successful institutional investor, with a long track record of success, where am supposed to pretend there's no difference between the two and take investment lessons to the former. NUTS.

You annoy the shit out of me tbh. I mean, your shtick was and is pretty predictable, and I was sure you're going to turn around 360 degrees from your bullshit stand on which you're clearly advocating for China to open up. I was one of many here who called your b.s. out and like always, you have a habit of deflecting ownership, and sidestepping responsibility. The oh so predictable that the supposed failure due to the high infection rate in China is somehow due to the See See Pee being x, y, z.

Exactly just leave people's race out of it.

B, I love reading some of your posts. You get hyped up over nothing. Why are you taking about gambling and investing, and what does that have to do with Indian or Chinese people. That analogy is too deep.

 

[Han Patriot]

I posted a Jordanian and UAE study recently on Sinopharm vs Pfizer, you guys can google. 80% vs 86% effectivenesss against severe infection , Mrna was only slightly better, one costs 130$, the other 3$. For Mrna freaks out here, MY UNCLE GOT CANCER 1 MONTH AFTER THE SECOND DOSE. Let that sink in.

 

[Han Patriot]

My reverse propaganda strategy works. CHINA COLLAPSE SELLS. 140 views in less than 24hrs.

 

[Quan8410]

The US have massive Covid, no one test. India has massive Covid, no one test. Only China. Fucking US lapdogs have no shame whatsoever.

 

[Deleted member 23272]

So just like clockwork, right?

China keeps zero Covid= China is strangling its own citizens and economy, why can't they just live with COVID like we have?
Protests happen= The biggest threat to the CPC since Tiannamen square.
COVID Restrictions lifted= Due to weak vaccines and an inefficient healthcare system Chinese will start dying at the rate of 1 million per day.
Chinese infections begin to peak, so much so the government feels confident in reopening the borders= Oh my god, COVID is suddenly a serious disease again! We have to keep a close eye on each Chinese traveler so that they do not make infections go out of control elsewhere again, eventhough we have already dropped testing and nobody wears masks anymore.