Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

MortyandRick

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Who’s Indian who’s Chinese. Who cares.

Don’t put the words “insult” and “sorry” in the same sentence. It lessens the effect.

India has issues, but it’s not all bad. Be humble - You just told me to “get off of my high horse”.
And It’s ok to take advice from America, Europe, Japan? Really. That’s new.
And you should be humble too. You were one of the main critics of zero covid and, according to your prior posts, people just need to eat well and rest to increase their immune system and decrease severe COVID infection. Then after China opened up, you were quick to blame the government for not handling the opening properly. So your flip flopping is quite disingenuous.

Sure India issues are not all bad, but they also fucked up on the covid infection, they really shouldn't lecture to others.

These travel limitations are all political. When japan was having 100k infections, no one placed limit on their citizens to travel. Mass infections in other countries are "transparent" even if they don't check anymore but in china it's "not transparent". Give me a break. That hypocrisy is pretty obvious.

I think any Chinese travellers should avoid any country with those subjective travel limits. Chinese media should make it known to the citizens that these countries are politicizing covid against the Chinese again. They obviously don't want Chinese traveller, why even go there. That's just low self esteem.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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I find it quite hilarious that US is pretending to care about coronavirus still by imposing testing requirements on Chinese travelers. China should reciprocate and keep it for as long as possible.
To be fair, the Chinese is still requiring a PCR test that was taken within 48 hours. The funniest one is Japan who requires a 5-7 day quarantine for those who tested positive despite having hundreds of thousands of cases.
 

ansy1968

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To be fair, the Chinese is still requiring a PCR test that was taken within 48 hours. The funniest one is Japan who requires a 5-7 day quarantine for those who tested positive despite having hundreds of thousands of cases.
Well I'm from the tourism industry, I can tell you the Japanese will reverse course ASAP cause nobody in their right mind will plan their vacation with such uncertainty. India, they can place restriction all they want nobody want to visit such dirty place, the US with long flight who want to torture themselves....lol
 

supercat

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I'm not sure if this inhaled vaccine is a new one or not.

An oral anti-COVID drug may be approved in February.
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The vaccine situation in China:
  • From 12/12/2022 - 12/27/2022, 25 million doses were given. Daily doses = 1.5 million
  • In early December, 105-110 million who were 60 yo and above need a booster
  • So 80-85 million still need a third dose as of now.
  • If China can keep the tempo of vaccination at 1.5 million doses daily, China can finish boosting 60 yo and above in about 2 months from now on, assuming all doses are given to this age group.
 

ansy1968

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I'm not sure if this inhaled vaccine is a new one or not.

An oral anti-COVID drug may be approved in February.
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The vaccine situation in China:
  • From 12/12/2022 - 12/27/2022, 25 million doses were given. Daily dose = 1.5 million
  • In early December, 105-110 million who are 60 yo and above need a booster
  • So 80-85 million still need a third dose as of now.
  • If China can keep the tempo of vaccination at 1.5 million dose daily, China can finish boosting 60 yo and above in about 2 months from now on, assuming all doses are given to this age group.
Bro I'm done with vaccination, 3 doses is enough. I think I got an immunity from Omicron when I've had experience it early this year and Sinovac works. My sister in law got infected with both the original strain and omicron and yet she only suffer a fever from the first and a sore throat infection from the latter. For her third doses she search far and wide for Sinovac cause the gov't want to use overstock Pfizer before their expiration date, so she has to pay to get one. :)
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Who’s Indian who’s Chinese. Who cares.

Don’t put the words “insult” and “sorry” in the same sentence. It lessens the effect.

India has issues, but it’s not all bad. Be humble - You just told me to “get off of my high horse”.
And It’s ok to take advice from America, Europe, Japan? Really. That’s new.
Who's Indian, who's Chinese. Who cares? You're probably Indian, just admit it, nothing wrong with being one. Am Chinese, and darn proud of it. So no, only a self-hating fella would utter such nonsense. It's like saying that there's no difference between a chronic gambler and a successful institutional investor, with a long track record of success, where am supposed to pretend there's no difference between the two and take investment lessons to the former. NUTS.

You annoy the shit out of me tbh. I mean, your shtick was and is pretty predictable, and I was sure you're going to turn around 360 degrees from your bullshit stand on which you're clearly advocating for China to open up. I was one of many here who called your b.s. out and like always, you have a habit of deflecting ownership, and sidestepping responsibility. The oh so predictable that the supposed failure due to the high infection rate in China is somehow due to the See See Pee being x, y, z.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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A western person living in Beijing, China walking around his neck of the woods to show what's happening in and around part of Beijing. It's not the whole picture of Beijing, but nonetheless, it offers people a glimpse of the actual situation rather than some usual anti-China schtick people with agendas love to push.

 

Bellum_Romanum

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Statistically there will always be edge cases. For example, the head scientist of the Sinovac trial in Indonesia died of COVID, and other doctors were known to be hospitalized when Sinovac was the only available vaccine there at the time. Sinovac also has a higher risk of Bell’s palsy. Again, these are edge cases. Also, I don’t agree that your post debunks anything I said, as my posts mention increased autoimmune effects after mRNA and I never received mRNA myself or recommended it for China. I only clarified its relative efficacy and some misunderstandings about domestic mRNA trials.
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And what does you post proved Winston? Are you for real dude? How about the number of people who have actually died even after taking your super duper vaccines? (Pfizer, MODERNA, Johnson and Johnson etc.) not to mention the actual VACCINE Injury these vaccines have caused, as the case with the doctor on that YouTube video I linked.

If what you're suggesting that using Chinese vaccine is akin to having no protection from Covid-19 then due to the fact that some doctors died, then you're just peddling comedy. In terms of the Chinese vaccine, in this case, SinoVac being linked to Bells palsy, has there been an actual large scale study beyond what was done in Hong Kong, China to support your claim conclusively. Reading through the link you posted, any person with a political agenda would be able to literally pick bits and pieces of the lancet study to both support and refute for and against SinoVac vaccine regarding causality to bell's palsy.

Just an example of what's written on the study:

We anticipated that the size of the sample from the current available data would not be sufficient to do a direct comparison of Bell's palsy incidence following vaccination with CoronaVac and BNT162b2; therefore, such an analysis was not done.

And there's this:

The findings of the sex and age subgroup analyses were similar to the main results except that there was no increased risk of Bell's palsy in women receiving CoronaVac compared with the control group (
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). The results of the post-hoc analyses on diagnosis interval after vaccination and the number of doses received are shown in
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. There was no increase in the risk of Bell's palsy in people who received both doses of CoronaVac, but the risk following both doses of BNT162b2 was significantly higher than in the control group. The risk was also significantly higher in individuals for whom there was longer than 14 days between either CoronaVac or BNT162b2 vaccination and Bell's palsy diagnosis, compared with the control group (
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). The results of the sensitivity analysis were consistent with the primary analysis (
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It's not exactly clear cut as the way you paint the vaccine to be. It's clear, from your responses thus far, that you're aim is to nitpick, complain in ideological bad faith regarding China's politics not policies. You're not here to debate with clear ethical intent, you're here to astroturf this topic and infect as with your political virus.

Go get yourself your 3rd,4th,5th Pfizer vaccines for all I care, go ahead if that's how you float your boat. Quit sniping us with politics.
 
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