Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

supersnoop

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What the hell is an emergency vaccine? How does that work exactly? Aren't vaccines supposed to simulate the virus (via mRNA sample or inactive virus) so the body can develop antibodies? Doesn't make sense if someone already has the real thing in their system. Or is it for anti-vaxxers having a sudden change of heart during a lockdown?

Are you referring to the emergency use above? Usually the emergency use means it’s bypassing the usual years-long process of full approval. Some poorer countries also just rubber stamp WHO approved vaccines, but this inhaled one would not be WHO approved yet.
 

In4ser

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Are you referring to the emergency use above? Usually the emergency use means it’s bypassing the usual years-long process of full approval. Some poorer countries also just rubber stamp WHO approved vaccines, but this inhaled one would not be WHO approved yet.
Ah, that makes a lot more sense. Didn't know that there are countries struggling to get access to COVID vaccines. Thought they all taken the American approach by now and just written off deaths. Thanks!
 

Quickie

Colonel
What the hell is an emergency vaccine? How does that work exactly? Aren't vaccines supposed to simulate the virus (via mRNA sample or inactive virus) so the body can develop antibodies? Doesn't make sense if someone already has the real thing in their system. Or is it for anti-vaxxers having a sudden change of heart during a lockdown?
It probably meant the vaccine was approved in an emergency.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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China massively adjusted the zero Covid policy:

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China shortens COVID quarantine times, eases flight curbs​


BEIJING, Nov 11 (Reuters) - China on Friday eased some of its COVID curbs, including shortening by two days quarantine times for close contacts of cases and for inbound travellers and scrapping a penalty on airlines that bring in infected passengers.

The new rules were among the 20 measures examined at the first meeting of the new top leadership body of the ruling Communist Party on Thursday, amid a new push to optimise and improve COVID control policies.


Under the new rules, quarantine for close contacts will be cut to five days at a centralised location plus three days at home, from seven days centralised and three days at home.

A similar shortening of quarantine rules was made for inbound travellers, according to the revised rules, which the National Health Commission (NHC) published on its website.

The suspension of international flight routes due to the detection of infected passengers was also abolished, while for inbound travellers, the pre-departure COVID test requirement was cut to once in 48 hours from twice.

The party's Politburo Standing Committee stressed the need to minimise the
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of China's zero-COVID measures on the economy while not relaxing the clamp-down on outbreaks.

In what appeared to be another reform to simplify the campaign against the coronavirus, the NHC adjusted its classification of risky areas to "high" and "low" risk, from "high", "medium" and "low" previously.
The NHC said the number of people affected by COVID measures should be minimised.

Secondary close contacts would no longer have to be identified although close contacts would still be, the health authority said.

Every effort should also be made to ensure smooth logistics for firms and industrial parks during outbreaks and important firms should not be arbitrarily required to suspend production.

China would also draw up a plan to accelerate vaccination, especially for the elderly, the NHC said.
 

coolgod

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China massively adjusted the zero Covid policy:

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China shortens COVID quarantine times, eases flight curbs​


BEIJING, Nov 11 (Reuters) - China on Friday eased some of its COVID curbs, including shortening by two days quarantine times for close contacts of cases and for inbound travellers and scrapping a penalty on airlines that bring in infected passengers.

The new rules were among the 20 measures examined at the first meeting of the new top leadership body of the ruling Communist Party on Thursday, amid a new push to optimise and improve COVID control policies.


Under the new rules, quarantine for close contacts will be cut to five days at a centralised location plus three days at home, from seven days centralised and three days at home.

A similar shortening of quarantine rules was made for inbound travellers, according to the revised rules, which the National Health Commission (NHC) published on its website.

The suspension of international flight routes due to the detection of infected passengers was also abolished, while for inbound travellers, the pre-departure COVID test requirement was cut to once in 48 hours from twice.

The party's Politburo Standing Committee stressed the need to minimise the
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of China's zero-COVID measures on the economy while not relaxing the clamp-down on outbreaks.

In what appeared to be another reform to simplify the campaign against the coronavirus, the NHC adjusted its classification of risky areas to "high" and "low" risk, from "high", "medium" and "low" previously.
The NHC said the number of people affected by COVID measures should be minimised.

Secondary close contacts would no longer have to be identified although close contacts would still be, the health authority said.

Every effort should also be made to ensure smooth logistics for firms and industrial parks during outbreaks and important firms should not be arbitrarily required to suspend production.

China would also draw up a plan to accelerate vaccination, especially for the elderly, the NHC said.
Terrible idea, China will have millions of dead in months.
 

Jiang ZeminFanboy

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Terrible idea, China will have millions of dead in months.
If we look at Hongkong if I remember correctly, with full reopening it is 500k to 1 million dead for China.

But I believe it is bad idea to open now, wait for spring 2023. Now covid is getting more and more transmitable because of autumn and winter and they want to loose restrictions? Soon big lockdowns will be needed in Guangzhou and other cities to make zero covid work, or let it spread.

BTW. Anyone got the data how many old people is vaccinated now, compared to April this year(Shanghai lockdown) ?

 
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