Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

KYli

Brigadier
I just heard on Bloomberg Shanghai is reversing back to lockdown with millions of people affected.

I'm quite sure this is their usual way of making headlines out of something less serious?

Maybe some kind of soft lockdowns in 1 or more districts?
They are going to mass testing 14 out of 16 districts over the weekend. 5 districts would be asked to stay at home. All lockdown should be lifted after the weekend unless your apartment complex tests positive for cases.
 

MortyandRick

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They are going to mass testing 14 out of 16 districts over the weekend. 5 districts would be asked to stay at home. All lockdown should be lifted after the weekend unless your apartment complex tests positive for cases.
So Shanghai is on a soft lock down again? Did they ever get out of their prior lock down to begin with? How do people live there in those situations. This is getting ridiculous. I truly feel bad for them.
 

KYli

Brigadier
So Shanghai is on a soft lock down again? Did they ever get out of their prior lock down to begin with? How do people live there in those situations. This is getting ridiculous. I truly feel bad for them.
Shanghai exited lockdown on June 1.

If Shanghai didn't delay the lockdown due to money and image, then it wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

If Shenzhen and other Chinese cities can handle flare ups without lockdown, I would think Shanghai can do it also unless someone is sabotaged the effort.
 

MortyandRick

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Shanghai exited lockdown on June 1.

If Shanghai didn't delay the lockdown due to money and image, then it wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

If Shenzhen and other Chinese cities can handle flare ups without lockdown, I would think Shanghai can do it also unless someone is sabotaged the effort.
Agreed with that but in general I think China's dynamic zero COVID strategy needs change. Open the country to those who have been triple vaxed. Or something. Omicron is too infectious to be stopped like this. Too much human and economic toll.
 

KYli

Brigadier
Agreed with that but in general I think China's dynamic zero COVID strategy needs change. Open the country to those who have been triple vaxed. Or something. Omicron is too infectious to be stopped like this. Too much human and economic toll.
Eventually, dynamic zero policy needs to adapt and change. However, triple vaxxed or not has nothing to do with such policy. In the end of the day, it is how many people would died and would the hospitals be overwhelmed that matter.
 

Coalescence

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Just thought of something with regards to reports of some testing companies being caught violating testing standards by mixing multiple samples together to save cost on testing. What if its instead employed as a strategy to reduce the cost of mass testing the population?

You could allow mixing of samples up to 5 people, and if the results returned positive, call those 5 people in and test them all individually for Covid. But the downside to this strategy is it would slow down the contact tracing and isolating response, and would disrupt the activities of the other 4 individuals who tested negative but is clustered with the single positive case. So its about balancing between cost and security.
 

SanWenYu

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Just thought of something with regards to reports of some testing companies being caught violating testing standards by mixing multiple samples together to save cost on testing. What if its instead employed as a strategy to reduce the cost of mass testing the population?

You could allow mixing of samples up to 5 people, and if the results returned positive, call those 5 people in and test them all individually for Covid. But the downside to this strategy is it would slow down the contact tracing and isolating response, and would disrupt the activities of the other 4 individuals who tested negative but is clustered with the single positive case. So its about balancing between cost and security.

It has been widely in use already. Mixing 10 or even 20 samples in one test depending on how sensitive your test agents are.

Those rogue companies who have been charged mostly were abusing this technique. They were caught having mixed more than the allowed max number of samples together to save cost. What they did could have produced false negative results.
 

Strangelove

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Cambodia beats COVID with leadership, vaccines and cooperation with China​


By YANG HAN in Hong Kong | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2022-06-10 18:23

Cooperation with China has been key to Cambodia achieving COVID-free status, experts say.

"I am very happy that COVID has been controlled (in Cambodia)," said Mey Kalyan, chairman of the Cambodia Development Resource Institute. He noted that bringing the virus under control in the developing country has allowed people to continue working and make a living.

Mey told China Daily that Cambodians are very proud of the country's success, and "all this happened because of the close cooperation with the Chinese government".

"The Chinese government is very generous, very kind, and very helpful as a friendly country to help us in great need," he said.
Cambodia's Health Ministry said in a statement on June 7 that the country has become a state free of COVID-19 after the recovery of the last patient, according to Xinhua News Agency.

As of June 7, no new cases had been reported in the country for 31 straight days, the statement said. Since the pandemic began in January 2020, Cambodia had reported 136,262 cases, one of the lowest totals in Southeast Asia, with 3,056 deaths.

Or Vandine, the Cambodian Health Ministry's secretary of state and spokeswoman, attributed the country's success in controlling the pandemic to the government's right leadership and the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines.

Most of the vaccines Cambodia used in its national immunization campaign were from China, which also provided medical equipment and sent medical experts, including a team of experts on traditional Chinese medicine, to help the Southeast Asian nation fight the pandemic.

As of June 9, 89.4 percent of Cambodia's 16 million population had been fully vaccinated with two doses of COVID-19 vaccines. About 58 percent of people had received a third dose, while 16 percent had had a fourth jab.

Cambodia on June 9 also started to provide the fifth dose of COVID-19 vaccines across the country.

Chheang Vannarith, president of Phnom Penh-based think tank Asian Vision Institute, said China was the first country to help Cambodia in the early days of the pandemic and Chinese vaccines accounted for over 80 percent of the total used in Cambodia.

"Vaccines are the most strategic weapons (against the pandemic) and China is the most important strategic partner for Cambodia's vaccination strategy," said Chheang, adding the early and fast rollout of vaccination defines Cambodia's anti-pandemic success.

"Without the help (from China), Cambodia could not have achieved the status of a COVID-free country," said Joseph Matthews, a senior professor at the BELTEI International University in Phnom Penh.

Matthews said Cambodia's leadership has been decisive since the beginning of the pandemic and made the right decision to provide vaccination to all people in the country, including foreigners.

Thanks to a high vaccination rate, Cambodia has fully resumed its socioeconomic activities since November, with its international borders also reopened to fully vaccinated tourists without quarantine, said Matthews. He noted that daily life in Cambodia has largely been restored to what it was before COVID.

Cambodia attracted nearly 250,000 international visitors between January and April, up 191 percent year-on-year, according to its Tourism Ministry.

Mey, from the Cambodia Development Resource Institute, said the help from China was on time and that the cooperation will have a long-term impact, boosting Cambodia's development.

On June 1, China and Cambodia signed a memorandum of understanding on the construction of a COVID-19 vaccine filling and packaging factory in the Southeast Asian nation.

Citing a voice message on Facebook from Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen, local media the Khmer Times reported that the participating Cambodian company, with assistance from Chinese partner Sinovac, is set to produce 35 million COVID-19 vaccine doses per year in 2024-26.

Referring to a Chinese proverb that says teaching a man to fish is better than giving him a fish to feed him for just a day, Mey said the cooperation is important because only through human resources development can a country develop.

While achieving COVID-free status does not mean there will be no infections in the country, Chheang from the Asian Vision Institute said a key indicator is the absence of severe cases or deaths.

Since severity of the pandemic still varies globally, Chheang said the government should keep monitoring the situation, even though many people are quite confident Cambodia has built a kind of herd immunity and resilience.
 
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