Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

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badoc

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KYli said:
Shenzhen did impose a 7 days lockdown that included shutting down the mass transit, factories and businesses. However, Shenzhen did allow a degree of freedom and most people didn't need to confine to home restrictly like Shanghai did. In a way, Shenzhen's ability to do mass testing and mass testing for 24 hours is what differentiate its from Shanghai.

Understandably, Shanghai is under tremendous pressure as the most internationalized city in China. However, it shouldn't excuse Shanghai initial failure to implement mass testing. Moreover, Shanghai was unable to cut off transmission chain and allow the virus spreading throughout China due to its reluctant to declare that Shanghai was having an outbreak. In addition, Shanghai was also slow to ask and accept helps from other cities and provinces.

If compare with other countries, Shanghai has done remarkedly well given the circumstance and the difficulty. However, Shanghai is one of the four top tier cities in China and it should compare with other Chinese cities. Its failure comparing with other top tier or even second tier and third tier cities mean that Shanghai has performed badly.
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When comparing, we must not discount the advantage that other cities have after witnessing what the Omicron did to Shanghai.
Overall I would say Shanghai did fail.
But we also have to give consideration that they had to deal with the many influential people with significant clout who demanded special treatment.
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dengyeye said:
We should be critical of Shanghai authorities in a way that is not influenced by westoid propaganda but by the bare facts. This means criticizing Shanghai's stubborn adherence to its 'precision' approach, kowtowing to foreign investors and lax testing (relative to the rest of the country). All these failures meant the central government had to step in and lock down China's largest city for over a month.

There is still zero comparison between Shanghai and say, India, where an estimated 4 million have perished from the pandemic. Shanghai's death toll after its most recent outbreak stands ~500. China at ~5000. Yet the west would have you believe India did better.
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The US still has daily deaths of between 300 to 400 for the past one month. Nobody in the media is talking about this latest surge of almost 1 mill in one month, when nobody talks about it, it doesnt exist. Shanghai fcked up, end of story, food delivery was still normal in Beijing and Shenzhen, and what's with 2 month lock? By day 35, it was under controlled, I was tracking it, they should have open up more districts that had ZERO cases.
 
SteelBird

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Cambodia's Covid-19 cases are all clear!

I praise to all Gods and hope it will not come back again.

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T-U-P

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escobar said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533852578903212036
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I'm not sure if there even needs to be a corrupted relationship with health officials. So far the two ways that I've heard about that the testing companies do are:
1) excessively dilute the sample by combining 30+ samples into a single test, instead of the intended 10 samples, therefore saves cost on testing for the company - I believe this was the cases reported in Beijing
2) rumors of companies giving false positive results when actual results are negative, this leads to more confirmation tests being done for each positive patient, therefore giving more work for the company - This was rumored during Shanghai lockdown, not sure how strong the evidences are.

Neither of the methods require coordination with corrupted health officials.
 
Bellum_Romanum

Bellum_Romanum

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Financial Times​

China offers Covid insurance to win over vaccine sceptics​

Despite lack of evidence, people claim they developed leukaemia after receiving jab

Dozens of cities across the country have begun offering people aged 60 and older free insurance that pays out up to Rmb500,000 ($75,000) if they fall ill — or worse — because of Covid-19 vaccines.
The packages also promise payouts to families if it can be proven that a loved one’s death was related to receiving a jab. In Beijing alone, about 60,000 seniors have signed up for the coverage since April.....

But government officials and the country’s strictly controlled media shy away from discussing even routine side effects, which can include shortlived fevers, soreness and other relatively mild reactions.
This has, paradoxically, created a vacuum in which unsubstantiated rumours about alleged links between vaccines and serious diseases such as leukaemia and type-1 diabetes have spread widely on Chinese social media.

“The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has gone to great lengths in making public information about health problems associated with Covid vaccines,” said a Beijing-based immunologist, who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the subject. “[But China] is focused on painting the picture of a 100 per cent risk-free vaccine that doesn’t exist in reality.”

As of May 5, less than two-thirds of Chinese citizens aged 60 or older had received a booster shot, as recommended by the World Health Organization. To achieve herd immunity, it is estimated that 80 per cent of the entire population needs a third dose...

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