Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[tokenanalyst]

I like how the young children and young adults have to suffer because old Chinese boomers are afraid of the scientifically proven and safe vaccine.

I can't understand why they didn't made it mandatory, it shouldn't be a question if they want it or not. Even by force.
Or another option is to make the lockdowns only for families with unvaccinated members.
I know, human rights and all that stuff, but giving a jab is really worse than forcing someone inside its own home?

 

[Phead128]

What you described isn't what the booster is actually meant for.

You must have missed this Hong Kong study posted here quite a number of pages back.

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As you can see, the Sinovac efficacy (against death) after the booster dose can be as high as 6 times that of the 2 doses in a number of the older age groups.

That's low-quality self-reported data there cannot prove causal effect. I reported "Chest Pain" to CDC's VAERS, but this chest pain could be caused by acid reflux, esophageal spasm, or from Pfizer vaccine. It's impossible to know without proper follow-up and data collection pre-post event (like in a traditional clinical trial setting).

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

I like how the young children and young adults have to suffer because old Chinese boomers are afraid of the scientifically proven and safe vaccine.

Well, it's the boomers that endured the hardships and made great sacrifices to help make and bring modern China to where it is today. The millenials, generation Z all have it relatively easy in comparison so we can shut the f.. K up with respect to whining about some of our elderly not enthusiastically embracing getting covid-19 vaccines. We have to be more than willing to understand and make sacrifices just as much as they did. Tell me, when was the last time yours and mine generation asked to sacrifice to the same degree and level of hardship the people have come before us made? Let's be mindful of our abundance, comfort, relative to the past.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

I can't understand why they didn't made it mandatory, it shouldn't be a question if they want it or not. Even by force.
Or another option is to make the lockdowns only for families with unvaccinated members.
I know, human rights and all that stuff, but giving a jab is really worse than forcing someone inside its own home?

Sorry dude. NOPE. you can shove up your force mandatory against the elders up into the dragon's bum.

 

[Overseaschinese]

I like how the young children and young adults have to suffer because old Chinese boomers are afraid of the scientifically proven and safe vaccine.

The people should decide by themselve to get vaccine or not.

The mortality rate of COVID death are less than 1 percent or even more less. In Germany they extimate, that the number could be up to 20-30 percent wrong, because of death with and not due COVID.

I don't think it is scientifically proven. Some institute guess that 0,02-0,8 Percent having serious damage of the vaccine.

Two of my friends are working in different hospitals and they said that, before when the vaccine campaign started, that they received patients nearly everyday due serious vaccine damage.

A friend of mine just died 3 days after getting his first shot of Biontech, because of a heart muscle inflammation, while he slept.
One of my cousin's best friend, also died after a few days from vaccine(Astrazeneca).
My mother gets after 5 days (Biontech) apoplexy and before that she was healthy.

All the three cases their doctor said, that is not from the vaccine. It's just a coincidence. Many cases in Germany felt down, because nobody wants to investigate it.

Also after the third shot I heard that Biontech just keep the people 3-4 months safe.
My friend he had delta, two shots(Biontech) and still get Omikron after two weeks of his second shot.

I haven't heard any serious damage from Sinovac yet, but a lot from mRNA. I don't trust mRNA vaccines.

In my opinion all the people, who are afraid of COVID, should protect themselves of wearing a mask in public. If any government wants to keep their population safe, then they should test all the people twice a week.

All the lockdowns cause a lots of problem. Suicide, sexual abuse on their kids, mental health problem, domnestic violence, ...

 

[tokenanalyst]

Sorry dude. NOPE. you can shove up your force mandatory against the elders up into the dragon's bum.

Then it will be difficult for the government to be confident that the healthcare system will not be overwhelmed with patients.

But at some point either because enough people has been boosted, economic reasoning or because the virus has become too stealthy there is a probability that they will adopt "Plan B": Make COVID data a State Secret (infections, deaths and everything related) and let the virus runs its course with some sensible restrictions. There is high probability someones unvaccinated dead parents will not even be part of the country statistics.

The people should decide by themselve to get vaccine or not.

The mortality rate of COVID death are less than 1 percent or even more less. In Germany they extimate, that the number could be up to 20-30 percent wrong, because of death with and not due COVID.

I don't think it is scientifically proven. Some institute guess that 0,02-0,8 Percent having serious damage of the vaccine.

Two of my friends are working in different hospitals and they said that, before when the vaccine campaign started, that they received patients nearly everyday due serious vaccine damage.

A friend of mine just died 3 days after getting his first shot of Biontech, because of a heart muscle inflammation, while he slept.
One of my cousin's best friend, also died after a few days from vaccine(Astrazeneca).
My mother gets after 5 days (Biontech) apoplexy and before that she was healthy.

All the three cases their doctor said, that is not from the vaccine. It's just a coincidence. Many cases in Germany felt down, because nobody wants to investigate it.

Also after the third shot I heard that Biontech just keep the people 3-4 months safe.
My friend he had delta, two shots(Biontech) and still get Omikron after two weeks of his second shot.

I haven't heard any serious damage from Sinovac yet, but a lot from mRNA. I don't trust mRNA vaccines.

In my opinion all the people, who are afraid of COVID, should protect themselves of wearing a mask in public. If any government wants to keep their population safe, then they should test all the people twice a week.

All the lockdowns cause a lots of problem. Suicide, sexual abuse on their kids, mental health problem, domnestic violence, ...

Inactivated vaccines are the safest vaccines there are, is proven old technology and according to the data I have been seen there are effective enough to reduce severe illness and death. What is needed right now is an Omicron specific inactivated vaccines to boost the population.

 

[supercat]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1528559479616176130

20-25% left to go, I don't know why they haven't made it mandatory yet, but I guess I can only hope the elderly will cooperate for the good of their community.

Just 62% for two doses? Should be over 90% for two doses to be considered safe.

China has WHO approved single dose vaccine. They should use it more to accelerate the pace of immunization for the elderly.

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[tokenanalyst]

Things are starting to look grim in Taiwan. They need to boost their number of ICU nurses fast.

 

[tokenanalyst]

The Aussies wanted to live with COVID, now its looks like is COVID that is living with them.
The government expected a single giant wave, Hong Kong style but they got a never ending COVID nightmare.