Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Overbom

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They already peaked in South Africa. Cases are falling fast.

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Yep. However, we should note that SA is a special case. The Delta variant infected a lot of people recently, which could have effected the severity of Omicron

Anyway, early data are positive. If it really is more infectious but is less severe then that's welcome news. Unless it mutates next year to become more lethal lol
 

Quickie

Colonel
Just a quick thought; if everyone country shared the zero covid as China from the very beginning, what would it had been now?

Many Asian countries almost succeeded (some even succeeded like China, Singapore, New Zealand, and a few other South East Asian countries next to China) in reducing the infection count to zero in the 1st or even the 2nd wave of the virus which originated from Western countries. It's the third wave, mostly from the Delta variant, that things started to get out of control, with some of the countries sort of giving up and being influenced into "living with" the virus strategy.
 
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supersnoop

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Is that all that you can say about this?
Just for the benefit of anyone who doesn’t know about the case of this idiot, I will give you a reply.

1. She is not a journalist, she is a vlogger.
2. She did not risk her life, you can see her stupid videos on YouTube where she is yelling at cops, throwing tantrums, and kicking over the checkpoint markers. The cops just tell her to go away. This wording is so loaded and stupid. It makes it sound like she is under threat of imminent execution, no, she is trying to kill herself.

Why is she called a hero and citizen journalist by the western media? Because they were pushing the narrative (at the time) of inhuman lockdowns violating the human rights of the residents of Wuhan.

Before I saw the videos she posted, I felt kind of bad for her, not after. She is basically just a crazy anti-mask/anti-vax type personality. As the saying goes, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Did you feel bad for Epstein when he committed suicide?
 

Xizor

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NBC news article about the situation with zhang zhan. It seems that she may not survive prison.

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What do you think of this?
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There's always many layers and sides to a story. To get a complete picture, in this world so entrenched in media biases and propaganda from all sides, it is a very must to hear out various PoV and use one's Brain.

From the GT article

Zhang went to Wuhan as a "citizen journalist" in February. There, she published her so-called independent reports on social media platforms both at home and abroad. In October 2019, she publicly supported the protest in Hong Kong against the then already withdrawn anti-extradition bill and was temporarily detained for holding an umbrella that read: "The Communist Party of China should step down."

Wuhan was fighting the epidemic in February
with support from across China and efforts made by local people. Zhang began her so-called independent reporting in Wuhan in February. Objectively, she went there to make trouble. She posted the last of her videos on YouTube on May 13, which is titled "The consequences of authoritarian epidemic prevention continue to appear." This video mainly accuses policemen in public places for making her feel "a strong sense of oppression."

Zhang is also alleged of using inflammatory headlines: "Wuhan - the roar of crematory late at night," "Are the government and the country of any significance when the most basic right to life cannot be guaranteed?," "Wuhan - sprinkler disinfection vehicle at 1 am, is that helpful?," "Which one is more important, life or power?," and "Epidemic prevention and control has become a performance project gaining more weights over people's livelihood, which may lead to another round of disasters."


See, things become much clearer now. It's wonderful what investigative and critical thinking (or lack thereof) does to perceptions and views.
 

winword

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Just a quick thought; if everyone country shared the zero covid as China from the very beginning, what would it had been now?
I feel like this whole thing would probably be over a long time ago, like SARS. Animal reservoir might be a issue, but so far it seems like this is not a big problem. There is no way to know for sure though, as there are no do-overs...
 

Quickie

Colonel
I feel like this whole thing would probably be over a long time ago, like SARS. Animal reservoir might be a issue, but so far it seems like this is not a big problem. There is no way to know for sure though, as there are no do-overs...

The way I see it, the fight with the pandemic was over once it had reached certain countries like the U.K., Sweden, the U.S. where they were already talking about herd immunity right off the bat the virus arrived at their shore.

If it isn't for all the political maneuvering over the pandemic, those Western countries would have no problem stopping the virus on its track as have been proven by New Zealand (and even Australia?) in the very early waves of the pandemic.
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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There's always many layers and sides to a story. To get a complete picture, in this world so entrenched in media biases and propaganda from all sides, it is a very must to hear out various PoV and use one's Brain.

From the GT article

Zhang went to Wuhan as a "citizen journalist" in February. There, she published her so-called independent reports on social media platforms both at home and abroad. In October 2019, she publicly supported the protest in Hong Kong against the then already withdrawn anti-extradition bill and was temporarily detained for holding an umbrella that read: "The Communist Party of China should step down."

Wuhan was fighting the epidemic in February
with support from across China and efforts made by local people. Zhang began her so-called independent reporting in Wuhan in February. Objectively, she went there to make trouble. She posted the last of her videos on YouTube on May 13, which is titled "The consequences of authoritarian epidemic prevention continue to appear." This video mainly accuses policemen in public places for making her feel "a strong sense of oppression."

Zhang is also alleged of using inflammatory headlines: "Wuhan - the roar of crematory late at night," "Are the government and the country of any significance when the most basic right to life cannot be guaranteed?," "Wuhan - sprinkler disinfection vehicle at 1 am, is that helpful?," "Which one is more important, life or power?," and "Epidemic prevention and control has become a performance project gaining more weights over people's livelihood, which may lead to another round of disasters."



See, things become much clearer now. It's wonderful what investigative and critical thinking (or lack thereof) does to perceptions and views.
In other words, SHE DESERVES TO BE IN JAIL FOR BREAKING THE LAW, OR NEEDS MEDS AND MENTAL HELP IF FOUND TO BE A "WESTERN INSPIRED Nutcase."
 
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