Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Overbom

Brigadier
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To reiterate, IMO the most basic components for ending the pandemic are:

1) Mandatory vaccinations
2) Regular vaccinations (every x months with a booster)
3) Pill that reduces hospitalization/death. Should be mass produced, cheap, access from over-the-counter
 

Tyler

Captain
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To reiterate, IMO the most basic components for ending the pandemic are:

1) Mandatory vaccinations
2) Regular vaccinations (every x months with a booster)
3) Pill that reduces hospitalization/death. Should be mass produced, cheap, access from over-the-counter
What type of vaccines would you prefer? Do you think anyone should be allowed to buy these pills, just in case?
 

Overbom

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What type of vaccines would you prefer?
Vaccines should be of any type that offers >50% protection against hospitalization/death. Mind you, this should be against the Omicron variant

So for example, Pfizer offers 70% protection with 2-doses and with a booster even more protection. So Pfizer is ok.
Need more data from other vaccines. If they are <50%, then they are not good


Do you think anyone should be allowed to buy these pills, just in case?
Yes. They should be as easy to get as getting an aspirin. This also means that they should be extremely safe to account for human stupidity

So for example, you would have some pills in your home and if you get sick, you order a self-test for COVID, and if positive, you take a pill and thats it
 

Tam

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To reiterate, IMO the most basic components for ending the pandemic are:

1) Mandatory vaccinations
2) Regular vaccinations (every x months with a booster)
3) Pill that reduces hospitalization/death. Should be mass produced, cheap, access from over-the-counter

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Masking.

Social distancing.

Healthy life habits.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
Its true. Sinovac did its own study where it showed that 7 out of 20 people had sufficient antibodies.

However seeing that the HK university study has been accepted for publication in a medical journal, while Sinovac hasn't, and hasnt even given any more details, I would trust more the HK study

In that case, Sinovac provide minimal protection. A booster shot is needed asap

Led by Kwok-Yung Yuen, the highly respected professor in infectious diseases, the study at the University of Hong Kong of 50 people has been accepted for publication in the medical journal Clinical Infectious Diseases and is available online as a pre-print.
Note its 25 people for Sinovac and 25 for Pfizer
 

badoc

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Its true. Sinovac did its own study where it showed that 7 out of 20 people had sufficient antibodies.

However seeing that the HK university study has been accepted for publication in a medical journal, while Sinovac hasn't, and hasnt even given any more details, I would trust more the HK study

In that case, Sinovac provide minimal protection. A booster shot is needed asap


Note its 25 people for Sinovac and 25 for Pfizer
No problem for me.
I had all along knew that Sinovac is not as strong and I chose Sinovac for its minimal adverse and long term side effects
It is a compromise between using the whole virus and mRNA producing a concentration of the spike proteins.

Anyway I feel 25 participants is too small a number for the study.
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Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
No problem for me.
I had all along knew that Sinovac is not as strong and I chose Sinovac for its minimal adverse and long term side effects
It is a compromise between using the whole virus and mRNA producing a concentration of the spike proteins.

Anyway I feel 25 participants is too small a number for the study.
.
The booster shot should be ok
 

daifo

Major
Registered Member
Its true. Sinovac did its own study where it showed that 7 out of 20 people had sufficient antibodies.

However seeing that the HK university study has been accepted for publication in a medical journal, while Sinovac hasn't, and hasnt even given any more details, I would trust more the HK study

In that case, Sinovac provide minimal protection. A booster shot is needed asap


Note its 25 people for Sinovac and 25 for Pfizer

only 5 pfizer participant had "sufficent antibodies" or 20%. Its better than sinovac but I still wouldn't be comfortable in a room full of maskless people.
 
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