Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Overbom

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My coworker’s 17 years old son got myocarditis after the second Pfizer shot and had to stay in the hospital for a few days
Seems that there is no long-term real danger from myocarditis. However better safe than sorry. You could look to see if it possible to have another another vaccine in the future
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BlackWindMnt

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I'm not sure if it's a good idea to share vaccine technology and patent. Since China is the owner of those, she will decide what to do.

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I think china is smart enough to only share it with trusted partners. But then again sharing the patents might be a big PR win. China the country that could and did the right thing.
 

taxiya

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Bro, who says "Great news for mRNA Worshipper" is the true troll.

If mRNA are truly ineffective at <50% efficacy as you suggested, the Chinese gov't would not be investing $ Billions $ into this new technology.

Actions speak louder than words. Chinese gov't puts it's money where it's mouth is, while you are making cheap shots at "mRNA Worshippers" like some sort of gotcha and then playing victim.
You don't need to "Bro" me.

When I said worshipper I was referring to people (including you since you picked it up) who believes one technology path (mRNA) is superior than others before looking at data, not only the initial data but latest ones, in this case 6 months later. That kind of belief is not based on fact and logic, it is religious, therefor worshipping.

On the other hand, trying out mRNA simultaneously with other technical paths and make the choice some time later based on study and research as China is doing and as I am suggesting is based on fact and logic, therefor NOT worshipping.

Doing the same thing (developing mRNA) does not make you and me same in any way because the reason of what you and I made the choices are vastly opposite.

mRNA was very effective in the early months before Delta variant, that is a fact nobody denies. Don't try to twist my statement. mRNA is much less effective from Israel's months long real life data. Another couple of month later now, the event in Norway further confirms so. These are facts. 50% is not what I suggested but by doctor from Norwegian CDC. 50% is only today, I did not say all the time, don't twist it. You should argue with Israel and Norwegian CDCs, not me.

Today's mRNA efficacy being low is because they are made out of the early variants and more than 6 months. NOT because mRNA path is wrong. So don't try to mess up the two matters. Dragging in China's effort won't have you because China is doing it not for the reason that you suggested (mRNA being superior). If I have the money I can choose either throw a party, or make a firework show, or both, it doesn't mean I love one over the other.

Apparently we all agree that "mRNA worshippers" are cheap. That's a good thing.
 
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NiuBiDaRen

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Western Countries are making plans to Vaccinate children as young as 5 years old with Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
Lets look at what happened in Vietnam recently when the kids were vaccinated.

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Funny but Western media is saying the opposite

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Doubts over China’s vaccine efficacy stoke anxiety both at home and abroad

Despite dispensing 2.5bn doses, recent outbreaks raise uncertainty over Sinovac and Sinopharm jabs
 
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