Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[el pueblo unido]

Which movie scene is that?

However, reading the past few pages, I think you guys are somehow too anti-west. Just a friendly remind, we are international forum, no hatred, no discrimination. Further, following the vaccination accident I reported a few days ago, there were totally 4 fatalities as of today, and there is another similar accident yesterday in Bac Giang province of Vietnam. This time the victims are students age between 12 and 17 and the vaccine in question is Pfizer. No fatality report so far.

Yes, people are getting a bit too hot headed in this forum, we should not behave like Jai Hinds, and I hope those kids in Bac Giang are safe. This omicron variant can be the start of something very terrible if it goes wild in many large population third world countries, without a united global cooperation effort, we will be facing even more devious variants in the future.

 

[tygyg1111]

Time to rebuilt the Great Wall, in order to keep the useless West out
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I'll man the machine guns for free

 

[SteelBird]

scary, our ministry of health announced to find two new variants within our boundary-- the B1.640 and B1.1.529

 

[windsclouds2030]

The EEOC considers anyone over the age of 40 as old.... (that is when lawsuits for age discrimination are allowed to begin)

Likewise in this article it seems that its pointless to save for retirement or save for anything over age of 50... since the state (US gov) considers anyone over 50 as entirely disposable and nothing but a burden on the system....

Things like this remind me of stories over years even long before this pandemic of the gigantic holes of the US Unfunded Liabilities of various social-economic funds incl. the pension funds, 401k, etc. Those considered as "old" in the USA may be taken as liabilities, thus the less the better...

Also the Great Reset, Agenda 2030, COPn-th / Climate Change, Green Utopia idea require less consumption and energy usage by the general populace. The Davos pantheon worry that natural resources on Earth won't be sufficient with the population is nearly 8,000,000,000 mouths nowadays... Covid lockdown is a good measure to reduce all the activities and consumption. Europe is the champion for that currently, the beloved child of Davos.

 

[B.I.B.]

Inactivated virus uses the whole virus.
mRNA uses only the spike protein.
The new South African virus, Omicron, have a mutated spike protein.

Good Luck to those vaccinated with Pfizer and Moderna.

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The 50 mutations on the new B.1.1.529 variant, named Omicron by the World Health Organization, include more than 30 on the spike protein, the exposed part of the virus that binds with human cells.

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South African scientist Tulio de Oliveira said at a media briefing Thursday that the omicron variant contains around 50 mutations but more than 30 of these are in the spike protein, the region of the protein that interacts with human cells prior to cell entry.
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Surely a changed spike protein would affect all the vaccines to a greater or lesser degree?.

 

[SteelBird]

scary, our ministry of health announced to find two new variants within our boundary-- the B1.640 and B1.1.529

Sorry for over reacting. I read the news carefully and found that our ministry of health just warns our citizen about the new variants. They haven't come to our country yet.

 

[B.I.B.]

Sorry for over reacting. I read the news carefully and found that our ministry of health just warns our citizen about the new variants. They haven't come to our country yet.

Breathing a sigh of relief.

 

[badoc]

Surely a changed spike protein would affect all the vaccines to a greater or lesser degree?.

Agreed.
I believe mRNA used in a concentrated and directed manner for cancer treatment is correct.
mRNA used for fast mutating Covid-19 is, I believe, flawed.

Inactivated Virus vaccines used the whole virus, so the efficacy is whole spectrum and may not show exaggerated results like for the mRNA vaccines.
A mutated spike protein will affect in reduced efficacy but in proportion to the whole virus, that is not very much.

mRNA vaccines focuses only on the spike protein.
The changes to the spike protein by mutation is a killer for this type of vaccine that shows high efficacy only if the virus spike protein don't mutate, which is impossible.

Biontech claims a new mRNA vaccine that targets the mutated spike protein can be made in 100 days.

I am really apprehensive to use a hurriedly done vaccine that meddles with our DNA.
mRNA "teach our cells how to make a protein" GIVES ME THE SHIVERS.
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[BlackWindMnt]

Agreed.
I believe mRNA used in a concentrated and directed manner for cancer treatment is correct.
mRNA used for fast mutating Covid-19 is, I believe, flawed.

Inactivated Virus vaccines used the whole virus, so the efficacy is whole spectrum and may not show exaggerated results like for the mRNA vaccines.
A mutated spike protein will affect in reduced efficacy but in proportion to the whole virus, that is not very much.

mRNA vaccines focuses only on the spike protein.
The changes to the spike protein by mutation is a killer for this type of vaccine that shows high efficacy only if the virus spike protein don't mutate, which is impossible.

Biontech claims a new mRNA vaccine that targets the mutated spike protein can be made in 100 days.

I am really apprehensive to use a hurriedly done vaccine that meddles with our DNA.
mRNA "teach our cells how to make a protein" GIVES ME THE SHIVERS.
.

I don't think creating a mRNA vaccines after 3 months of a new version is the way to go, I think a anti corona pill to prevent hospitalization should be the way to go. Or just accept in the west that corona will be a part of life and make the health system robust enough to handle it the waves.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

Inactivated virus uses the whole virus.
mRNA uses only the spike protein.
The new South African virus, Omicron, have a mutated spike protein.

Good Luck to those vaccinated with Pfizer and Moderna.

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The 50 mutations on the new B.1.1.529 variant, named Omicron by the World Health Organization, include more than 30 on the spike protein, the exposed part of the virus that binds with human cells.

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South African scientist Tulio de Oliveira said at a media briefing Thursday that the omicron variant contains around 50 mutations but more than 30 of these are in the spike protein, the region of the protein that interacts with human cells prior to cell entry.
.

You @Tyler how's your MrNA business doing bruh...I hope your vaccine index investments has some inactivated made vaccines in it otherwise it'll go kaput. But all joking aside, we should all hope and pray that the world will get through this new strain for the sake of humanity otherwise we're all wrecked.