Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

ansy1968

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Bravo GT tell it as it is, the purest form of Human Rights is the right to live!

"But in the fight against global public health events, China pays attention to the highest human rights: the right to life, and more importantly, the right to health. People wear masks, consciously limit their activities and cooperate with nucleic acid testing to reduce the spread of the virus.
 

Fedupwithlies

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This new Omicron variant was not unexpected. The world scientific community has stated, over and over and over, that if you leave parts of the world unvaccinated and allow covid to spread, it will mutate, and from those mutations there will be more lethal and more virulent strains to arise.

Actually it will mutate anyways, but more hosts = more chances of a viable mutation to make it more dangerous. Its all a game of numbers. Don't let it spread, and you give it a harder time to mutate.
 

ansy1968

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This new Omicron variant was not unexpected. The world scientific community has stated, over and over and over, that if you leave parts of the world unvaccinated and allow covid to spread, it will mutate, and from those mutations there will be more lethal and more virulent strains to arise.
@Fedupwithlies bro I'm not a doctor BUT from my understanding the virus should wane as it mutated, it may be more infectious but deadlier than the original in terms of mortality?
 

Fedupwithlies

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@Fedupwithlies bro I'm not a doctor BUT from my understanding the virus should wane as it mutated, it may be more infectious but deadlier than the original in terms of mortality?
There's no evidence right now that Omicron deadlier than the original, but there's no reason to believe that as the virus mutates, it will lose its lethality.

We have seen viruses become less lethal as they become more infectious, but that's because the virus kills the host slower, giving the host more time to spread the virus.
This was (and is) very important in less population-dense areas and regions. However, in high-population density, low vaccination rate area, since the chance of transmission is already so high, there's no selection pressure to reduce lethality. And there's no biological link between infectiousness and lethality, just statistics and natural selection.

Edit: To add, this is why its so important for China to stay the course on its zero covid policy. China has some extremely densely populated areas. Those are perfect for a virus to increase its lethality, because their hosts can spread well before the virus kills them.

The calls for China to abandon its zero covid are not from a scientific base.
 
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Sardaukar20

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They estimate 630k cases per day in China if they follow the US way of containing Covid-19. 10k severe cases per day, overwhelming Chinese hospitals.

Well there is India with their 1.3bil population, and their disaster Covid-19 management. They've never reached 630k cases a day even during the peak of their Covid-19 2nd wave. So is China over-estimating the impact of Covid-19? Or is India severely under-reporting their numbers?
 
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