Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

TomSellinger

TomSellinger

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Heliox said:
Regulation in the form of taxation to increase cost and reduce consumption.
Regulation in the form of consumption limits for activities (eg. driving).
Regulation in the form of establishments licensed for consumption.
I believe in Canada, the publican is responsible for allowing a customer to become inebriated and culpable for his actions thereafter? That's a form of regulation that's fairly uncommon for curbing alcohol (over)consumption.

But yes, fair enough, it's arguable whether that constitutes "heavy" (I was just lifting the phrase from the comment I was replying to)

Although Prohibition is in the past, it offers a good idea of what happens when a zero-tolerance stance is taken on something viewed by the masses as being relatively benign/harmless. Apply that to Covid and we see how some Govt struggle to get covid containment measures accepted by their electorate.
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False assumption. Covid is big business in the west. The government don't want to eradicate it like in China. They want to use it to make profit. There is no mandatory mass testing to find infected people. There is no vaccine that stops infection. Gee. Wonder why? Yeah. It's pretty obvious why.
 
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Nutrient

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Heliox said:
Your rights to a healthy environment do not necessarily have priority over my rights to a stable, viable economy that I can earn a decent wage in and support my family.
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I said, "[in spite of Zero Covid] China is actually growing faster than it was doing before the pandemic". So if the Zero Covid policy actually works in your country, it is actually better economically (and also better morally).

What you are really saying is that Singapore cannot make Zero Covid work, so the city has decided to surrender and open up. The recent nearly vertical rise in Covid-19 cases probably indicates that opening up was a huge mistake. So you will likely be locked down once more AND you'll suffer economically too. Congratulations.


Heliox said:
Yes, smoking and alcohol is heavily regulated. But my point is you do not see a zero-ciggies or a zero-alcohol policy. Why is that?
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No zero alcohol (except in some Muslim countries) and no zero smoking: these are practical because neither alcohol nor smoking is contagious. However, alcohol at least is heavily regulated nearly everywhere, in spite of that. For something as contagious as Covid, a zero tolerance policy is preferable.
 
TomSellinger

TomSellinger

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Nutrient said:
I said, "[in spite of Zero Covid] China is actually growing faster than it was doing before the pandemic". So if the Zero Covid policy actually works in your country, it is actually better economically (and also better morally).

What you are really saying is that Singapore cannot make Zero Covid work, so the city has decided to surrender and open up. The recent nearly vertical rise in Covid-19 cases probably indicates that opening up was a huge mistake. So you will likely be locked down once more AND you'll suffer economically too. Congratulations.



No zero alcohol (except in some Muslim countries) and no zero smoking: these are practical because neither alcohol nor smoking is contagious. However, alcohol at least is heavily regulated nearly everywhere, in spite of that. For something as contagious as Covid, a zero tolerance policy is preferable.
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I think Singapore will do just fine. They have natural immunity to it.
 
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