Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[siegecrossbow]

If these people don't grow a brain soon, China has either two options, let Taiwan sort its own problem out, then take over Taiwan to save its people from wiping themselves out from stupidity, or take over Taiwan now to save them there own stupidity any way because really, when someone is offering people treatment from across the sea and the delivery would be extremely quick, while Taiwan still wants to ask the USA for vaccines and not getting the hint that maybe the USA isn't interested, maybe the neighbor is the better one to ask but nooo, 'muh politics' and democracy is more important then life. Taiwan is about to share the same fate as Chiang Kai Shek, about to go down in history as a disgrace and a complete idiot

Why the hell should the U.S. prioritize vaccines for Taiwan? Taiwan's Central American diplomatic partners will get vaccines from the U.S. earlier than Taiwan itself because they have a very real chance of ending ties with Taiwan to recognize China. There is no risk of Taiwan becoming China friendly as long as the DPP is in charge.

 

[supersnoop]

If these people don't grow a brain soon, China has either two options, let Taiwan sort its own problem out, then take over Taiwan to save its people from wiping themselves out from stupidity, or take over Taiwan now to save them there own stupidity any way because really, when someone is offering people treatment from across the sea and the delivery would be extremely quick, while Taiwan still wants to ask the USA for vaccines and not getting the hint that maybe the USA isn't interested, maybe the neighbor is the better one to ask but nooo, 'muh politics' and democracy is more important then life. Taiwan is about to share the same fate as Chiang Kai Shek, about to go down in history as a disgrace and a complete idiot

Democracy is supposed to be the will of the people. I wonder if the people of Taiwan do not want vaccines...

 

[Dolcevita]

I don't think the Bharats were stupid enough to deny vaccines and medical supplies. They may make a show of complaining about costs/quality of Chinese ventilators but that didn't stop them from purchasing them enmasse.

Have to disagree here. I still have my doubts about the Indian Vaccines. It so happens that the Indian variant exploded just when the India's vaccination effort started without fully completing their phase II and beyond trials. We are now hearing that their vaccine may have virus that are not fully inactivated. Not making a conclusions but I would not want to risk having a flawed vaccine that may actually cause more harm than good.

English Vegetable is risking the lives of Million of Chineses without a proper clinical trials.

 

[HybridHypothesis]

I think the lab leak hypothesis represents the biggest casus belli the West could have possibly acquired in this era. It is hard to imagine another crises (short of actual warfare over Taiwan / SCS).

This is what makes the situation so dangerous right now, as there is now reason for both sides to mobilize the whole of society for "confrontation". Previous confrontations were largely symbolic and/or financial in nature. But now the damage is distributed across the whole of society, so everyone wants revenge.

Unless strong evidence emerges of natural origin emerges soon the situation will be rendered irreversible.

 

[bajingan]

I think the lab leak hypothesis represents the biggest casus belli the West could have possibly acquired in this era. It is hard to imagine another crises (short of actual warfare over Taiwan / SCS).

This is what makes the situation so dangerous right now, as there is now reason for both sides to mobilize the whole of society for "confrontation". Previous confrontations were largely symbolic and/or financial in nature. But now the damage is distributed across the whole of society, so everyone wants revenge.

Unless strong evidence emerges of natural origin emerges soon the situation will be rendered irreversible.

I find it highly unlikely that the us is willing to start an unprovoked war over covid19, since China is a nuclear weapons state
Moreover starting a conflict over a virus can backfire really badly, the americans has tonnes of skeletons in their closet, in fact far more people has died because of aids than covid, a disease that is originated in the us
the origin of hiv virus itself is even more suspect than covid19, in fact soviet union has questioned the natural origin of hiv

 

[HybridHypothesis]

I find it highly unlikely that the us is willing to start an unprovoked war over covid19, since China is a nuclear weapons state
Moreover starting a conflict over a virus can backfire really badly, the americans has tonnes of skeletons in their closet, in fact far more people has died because of aids than covid, a disease that is originated in the us
the origin of hiv virus itself is even more suspect than covid19

"unprovoked war".

The point is that the refusal of China to be "fully transparent" in regards to the lab leak is a provocation on its own. This is the general viewpoint of the West right now.

It won't escalate into a hot war because of those nukes, but I do think people are more willing to bear the consequences of a more intense trade war right now. The kinds of proposals that were dismissed as absurd in the Trump era might have bipartisan support now.

And no one cares about HIV because no one locked the economy down for it. Corona impacted everyone, while HIV is largely limited to gays.

***************

Barring the natural origin evidence coming in (which I think is unlikely), the other thing that could delay the confrontation is that America's internal problems become too big to ignore. But that is still not surefire, as the most likely outcome is that America's economic situation deteriorates, leaving masses of unemployed and financially ruined people who have nothing to do but consume political media. The media will jack up the rhetoric to distract from internal problems with predictable outcomes.

 

[Heliox]

Meanwhile Jai Hinds posting these out of context videos & claiming that China is out of vaccines and people are getting desperate.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1398554533303705601

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1398570596821127169

One Jai hind points out the broad roads and footpath (something non existent in India) lol

View attachment 72735

Classic Wag the Dog attempts to distract from their own problems/incompetence

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

 

[Sardaukar20]

I think the lab leak hypothesis represents the biggest casus belli the West could have possibly acquired in this era. It is hard to imagine another crises (short of actual warfare over Taiwan / SCS).

This is what makes the situation so dangerous right now, as there is now reason for both sides to mobilize the whole of society for "confrontation". Previous confrontations were largely symbolic and/or financial in nature. But now the damage is distributed across the whole of society, so everyone wants revenge.

Unless strong evidence emerges of natural origin emerges soon the situation will be rendered irreversible.

This lab leak theory is among the weakness of the casus bellis of the West. They have tried color revolution in HK, genocide lies in Xinjiang, China island-building 'annexation' from the Philippines, China's 'threat' to Taiwan's 'independence'. If the West had really acted on their casus bellis, it would have been war already.

Pinning the blame of Covid-19 on China is a done deal regardless of the Wuhan lab theory. Even if the Wuhan lab leak theory is dismissed. Then China will and already is blamed for 'letting' the virus leave its borders. The West will always find other excuses to blame China. Adding a phony Wuhan lab leak theory on top of it is not gonna change much, since China is already being slandered and punished by the West and friends right now.

Nevertheless, I would totally agree to massively build up China's military now. Even today the West and friends could not truly form a united anti-China front. Some are eager, while others are reluctant. If China can build its military to truly frightening proportions, then that anti-China front becomes shakier and weaker. Hence the threat of war reduces further.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

I thought Mainland Chinese were the only ones rude enough to cut in line...

 

[Gatekeeper]

The English Vegetable, the queen of all she Survey is managing this crisis very well then............ by Indian standards.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!