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[spring2017]

I am sometimes baffled as to what the f..k goes through the head of the CPC leadership when it comes to their dealings with the U.S.

CPC is not monolithic, and as capitalist class getting stronger in China, they yield significant influence within CPC, not to mention some CPC elites want to be billionaires themselves.

Therefore, winning the support of imperialist powers is very important for these capitalists and wannabe.

A class perspective is important in analyzing social and political questions, international as well domestic.

That’s why the imperialist powers hate Marxism to guts, as it provides analytical tool for people to see through their trick.

 

[voyager1]

Thats your utopia right here

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A handful of nations at the time – including the United States, Britain and Japan – said the findings were flawed by a lack of transparency and independence from the Chinese government.

There are growing calls to look into the theory that the virus emerged from a lab in Wuhan,

"Unite the world"
"Join hands as humans to battle covid"
"Science unites us"
"We want only the truth, not to blame anyone"

This kindergarden utopian logic is such bollocks. The West is going for a Witch-hunt against China and they wont rest until they draw real blood from it

For all you people saying about "muh unite the world against climate change", the above article is my response to you

This period of time 2021-2030 is a do-or-die moment for China. It will either rise or grind to dust from the West combined pressure

All these "climate, covid" is all bs. China should take its own actions for its own interests and disregard its enemies

 

[siegecrossbow]

Only SCMP is so far reporting the 300 missing COVID-positive cases in Taiwan without providing a source. Could not even find Taiwan source to collaborate their reporting. Is SCMP reliable or credible or tabloidish?

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SCMP is a tabloid but I’ll still trust what I reports over the dreg dished out by the Tsai government.

 

[daifo]

The past 2 years adversaries has used against China:
Hong Kong terrorist - failed
Trade war - failed
Covid 19 - failed
Moving factories out - failed
Uygur Genocide - failed
Now Covid 19 lab conspiracy (again)

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[manqiangrexue]

CPC is not monolithic, and as capitalist class getting stronger in China, they yield significant influence within CPC, not to mention some CPC elites want to be billionaires themselves.

OK, not wrong.

Therefore, winning the support of imperialist powers is very important for these capitalists and wannabe.

There's where you go wrong. Capitalists aren't the same group all over the world and don't work with each other. American capitalists want America to be the strongest so that it puts them in the best position to capitalize on the resources of the world and Chinese capitalists want the same for China. And by capitalist, I really just mean the rich elite who have vision, in this case. They vie against each other for global dominance and access; they do not support each other against their own poor.

A class perspective is important in analyzing social and political questions, international as well domestic.

It's more important to know the limitations of the class perspective and to not overapply it where it is not appropriate. A race perspective does a much better job in this case and most other cases of international rivalry.

That’s why the imperialist powers hate Marxism to guts, as it provides analytical tool for people to see through their trick.

And former socialist nations in the now dead USSR hate Marxism's guts because it made them poor and broken. Just looking at the infrastructure, you can tell if you're in a country in prosperous western Europe or the remnants of a failed socialist experiment in eastern Europe. So everyone hates Marxism... except China, which still uses its name as a disguise to fool and placate the Western into miscalculating its rise and movements like an MMA fighter saying he studies Tai Chi to set up an arrogant boxer thinking he'll have an easy victory.

 

[KYli]

Only SCMP is so far reporting the 300 missing COVID-positive cases in Taiwan without providing a source. Could not even find Taiwan source to collaborate their reporting. Is SCMP reliable or credible or tabloidish?

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It is all over Hong Kong and Taiwan media. Shouldn't be difficult to find.

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[Bellum_Romanum]

The past 2 years adversaries has used against China:
Hong Kong terrorist - failed
Trade war - failed
Covid 19 - failed
Moving factories out - failed
Uygur Genocide - failed
Now Covid 19 lab conspiracy (again)

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I.e. Please be more inventive and come up with better more "sophisticated" lies is more like it. All in the name of "Freedom" wink wink and "Democracy" which means lording over the countries people and wealth.

 

[KYli]

Phase 3 peer review result of Sinopharm Beijing and Wuhan vaccines. The Journal of American Medical Association.

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The incidence rate (per 1000 person-years) was 12.1 (95% CI, 8.3-17.8) in the WIV04 group, 9.8 (95% CI, 6.4-15.0) in the HB02 group, and 44.7 (95% CI, 36.6-54.6) in the alum-only group. This resulted in a vaccine efficacy, compared with the alum-only group, of 72.8% ([95% CI 58.1%-82.4%]; P < .001) for the WIV04 group and 78.1% ([95% CI, 64.8%-86.3%]; P < .001) for the HB02 group

A total of 47 asymptomatic cases of COVID-19 were identified 14 days following the second dose: 16 in the WIV04 group, 10 in the HB02 group, and 21 in the alum-only group. Thus, the total number of cases of COVID-19 (including both symptomatic and asymptomatic cases) was 42 in the WIV04 group, 31 in the HB02 group, and 116 in the alum-only group. A post hoc analysis adding the asymptomatic cases resulted in a vaccine efficacy of 64.0% (95% CI, 48.8%-74.7%) for the WIV04 vaccine and 73.5% (95% CI 60.6%-82.2%) for the HB02 vaccine

Thus, the total number of cases after the first dose was 69 in the WIV04 group, 48 in the HB02 group, and 138 in the alum-only group. A post hoc analysis that additionally included those cases resulted in a vaccine efficacy of 50.3% (95% CI 33.6%-62.7%) for the WIV04 vaccine and 65.5% (95% CI 52.0%-75.1%) for the HB02 vaccine against symptomatic cases of COVID-19 after the first dose.

 

[gadgetcool5]

Phase 3 peer review result of Sinopharm Beijing and Wuhan vaccines. The Journal of American Medical Association.

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The incidence rate (per 1000 person-years) was 12.1 (95% CI, 8.3-17.8) in the WIV04 group, 9.8 (95% CI, 6.4-15.0) in the HB02 group, and 44.7 (95% CI, 36.6-54.6) in the alum-only group. This resulted in a vaccine efficacy, compared with the alum-only group, of 72.8% ([95% CI 58.1%-82.4%]; P < .001) for the WIV04 group and 78.1% ([95% CI, 64.8%-86.3%]; P < .001) for the HB02 group

A total of 47 asymptomatic cases of COVID-19 were identified 14 days following the second dose: 16 in the WIV04 group, 10 in the HB02 group, and 21 in the alum-only group. Thus, the total number of cases of COVID-19 (including both symptomatic and asymptomatic cases) was 42 in the WIV04 group, 31 in the HB02 group, and 116 in the alum-only group. A post hoc analysis adding the asymptomatic cases resulted in a vaccine efficacy of 64.0% (95% CI, 48.8%-74.7%) for the WIV04 vaccine and 73.5% (95% CI 60.6%-82.2%) for the HB02 vaccine

Thus, the total number of cases after the first dose was 69 in the WIV04 group, 48 in the HB02 group, and 138 in the alum-only group. A post hoc analysis that additionally included those cases resulted in a vaccine efficacy of 50.3% (95% CI 33.6%-62.7%) for the WIV04 vaccine and 65.5% (95% CI 52.0%-75.1%) for the HB02 vaccine against symptomatic cases of COVID-19 after the first dose.

Finally! I had given up all hope of this happening.

 

[KYli]

Look like the few cases of covid-19 have actually accelerated the speed of vaccination.

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