Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

ansy1968

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That makes the survey result even more bizarre: only 3 out of 10 people would choose the only vaccines in town?
@solarz Sir, among the masses there is only one choice SINOVAC, Pfizer is added for advertising purposes and also for those people who had DUAL PASSPORT or relative in the US. There is a US embassy circular stating that only people vaccinated with Western vaccine can enter the US. Its one of the example of America imperialism, playing peoples live for propaganda purposes, right now most of those hospitalized are middle and high income group. while the poor whose living conditions are exposed to the element are largely spared. Thanks to the gov't semi lockdown scheme were they focus on this vulnerable group.
 

Tse

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Even a WHO official Marian Koopmans said a couple months ago that three workers did get sick, but attributed it to seasonal illness.

Coming out now and saying it's a complete lie contradicts WHO.

This guy should be more careful about what he's saying. As many of even China's supporters (such as Nathan Rich) pointed out, it's not unreasonable that 0.3% of workers got sick.

This is a serious matter and China needs to take it in with more gravity, rather than put out careless statements.

Have you forgotten that in Jan 2020 the authorities did not lock down the city for about 2 weeks, and eventually important officials were made to step down? And in early 2020 there was a wave of discontent for the initial outbreak? If there was a leak, giving them even more than 2 weeks to react, why would they just sit around waiting for it to wreck the economy and destabilize the government before taking action? Before you go there, no you can't use this to damage other countries because there is absolutely no way that anybody could have known in advance which country will be able to bring the virus under control (remember the readiness index?). This whole theory just makes no sense at all.
 

ansy1968

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Mixing vaccines might get better efficacy rate but side effects could be more serious. But you got to do what you got to do.
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@KYli bro, let you in why they are on the PLANNING STAGE to mix those vaccine, nobody want to use Astrazeneca and other vaccine bought from India when they arrived on the third quarter and it will be a waste (with it a corruption probe will be launched to investigate). Like @SteelBird had posted the gov't will inoculate you whatever vaccine they have, since many had been administered with their first dose either with Sinovac or Pfizer. I for one and many others will surely against it. I rather wait (June 12 schedule) rather than being experimented like a guinea pig.
 

zbb

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Maybe investigate this first. This story is already buried without an explanation what was it.
This happened around July 2019.

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Doing a Google search on "Greenspring pneumonia" returns a number of articles from July 2019, with the last report coming on July 26. After that, nothing. No followup at all on the CDC investigation into the sudden outbreak of a cluster of pneumonia of unknown cause with 60+ people falling sick, 20+ hospitalized and at least 3 deaths. We never find out how the CDC investigation concluded.

Coincidentally, on August 2, 2019, one week after the last news report on the Greenspring outbreak, we get a report that the CDC imposed a temporary shutdown of Fort Detrick, the US military biological warfare research lab located about an hour drive away, for serious lapses in biosafety procedures.

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Sardaukar20

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Maybe investigate this first. This story is already buried without an explanation what was it.
This happened around July 2019.

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Yes, if WIV needs to be investigated over '3 sick staffs' in Nov 2019. That Greenspring retirement mystery outbreak, and the 2019 'Vaping illness' epidemic in the US is fair game too. Well those two outbreaks were much bigger, had cases of severe pneumonia, and deaths. All having some possible 'links' with Fort Detrick.

AFAIK, both 'incidents' in China and the US may or may not be Covid-19 related. But that is not the point. The point is that everytime the US brings up WIV lab origins theory. China should and must bring up the Fort Detrick theory too. China should pressure the WHO to go investigate those cases in the USA.

This is fair game because the US started this mud-slinging game. Maybe China can get Russian media to help spin some Fort Detrick stories. Russian media have little issues spinning conspiracy theories that make the US look bad. And more importantly, Russian media is quite popular among the American conservatives. They hate China for sure, but they are also very distrustful of the US govt. They are already a confused crowd. Confuse them even more! Get them to start protesting and making noises about Fort Detrick. Maybe even those moron anti-maskers, and anti-vaxxers might start protesting about Fort Detrick. Good fun.

All of this is just mirroring what America is doing to China. So I don't see much moral conflict for China at this point. Its beyond due time to irritate the crap out of the US, and make everyone doubt and debate whether Covid-19 was 'made in' China or the USA.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Let us suppose the three WIV got sick with COVID-19.

This was not reported because unlike previous leaks, they were working on off-the-books gain of function research for the PLA using a novel DNA sequence, and the virus sequence was not in public databases.

The three were treated in the hospital and luckily infected no one else in the hospital or among close contacts, which caused the Chinese authorities to become overconfident that this strain is not very infectious (no human-to-human infection). As scientists know, no matter how you change the sequence of a virus, you cannot predict how infectious it is. However, unluckily, one or more of the workers traveled along the subway line connecting WIV to the Huanan Seafood market. At the seafood market a superspreader event occured.

When the Huanan Seafood Market outbreak occurred, Chinese authorities delayed because they mistakenly believed it was not very infectious due to the 3 workers not infecting anyone in the hospital or among close contacts. By the time they realized their mistake it was already mid-January.

Anyway, that is a plausible scenario for the WIV spill theory.
Jesus f..ng Christ, the amount of s..t you go through and the inventiveness of your western mind really knows no bounds eh. You have been reading too much Tom Clancy s..t that you have forgotten to actually use common sense. Deep down inside you do believe the nut case theory that indeed China has something to do with the Covid-19 virus lol..there's no amount of common sense that can persuade you buddy.

I bet that in the not so distant day, I am going to begin reading your thrilling and conspiratorial scenario on some bastion of journalistic integrity in western publications and I can't wait to read up on them while you come back here with yet another one of your pseudo scientific explanations as to how it may have happened and how the Chinese will become the next Jews or some sh..t like that. Keep doing your chicken little dance routine though it's quite amusing albeit irritating at the same time.
 

manqiangrexue

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Let us suppose the three WIV got sick with COVID-19.

This was not reported because unlike previous leaks, they were working on off-the-books gain of function research for the PLA using a novel DNA sequence, and the virus sequence was not in public databases.

The three were treated in the hospital and luckily infected no one else in the hospital or among close contacts, which caused the Chinese authorities to become overconfident that this strain is not very infectious (no human-to-human infection). As scientists know, no matter how you change the sequence of a virus, you cannot predict how infectious it is. However, unluckily, one or more of the workers traveled along the subway line connecting WIV to the Huanan Seafood market. At the seafood market a superspreader event occured.

When the Huanan Seafood Market outbreak occurred, Chinese authorities delayed because they mistakenly believed it was not very infectious due to the 3 workers not infecting anyone in the hospital or among close contacts. By the time they realized their mistake it was already mid-January.

Anyway, that is a plausible scenario for the WIV spill theory.
Ok, since everything is "let us suppose" and "if," therefore basically, because there is no evidence, you have said nothing based on reality. You have made up a story, which is the same as, "Let us supposed that last Saturday night, you were not asleep, and that you felt particularly... stabby. That means you could have taken your kitchen knifes, gone outside and killed the woman we found dead in the woods Sunday morning. Then you went home, did your bloody laundry, washed your knife, and went about your routine as usual. That is a plausible scenario. Assuming that that's true, gadget, why did you kill that woman? Was it unrequited love? That's also a plausible scenario! This is a serious matter and you need to take it in with more gravity, let people inspect your house, provide proof that you did not kill her." I can probably make more of these plausible scenarios than you if I wanted to, but unlike you, I don't like to dwell in fantasy so I won't write a page of what it would mean about you and what will happen to you if those plausible scenarios were true... which is plausible ;)
 
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