COMAC C919 - China's first modern airliner

Schumacher said:

lol, do you mean Chinese tourists only go to Europe and US ?
Not only tourism, major commercial deals, like aircraft, are in fact related to everything.
You're from japan ? It was an exclusive Boeing market for decades even when everyone else including US themselves have already been buying Airbus.
Why do you think that's the case ? You're pretty naive if you think it's because Boeing is 'better'.

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Schumacher said:

My friend, please don't even put MRJ in the same discussion as C919, 737 & A320. It's a regional jet competing with ARJ and others from Bombardier & Embraer, ie segments the big 2 don't even care about.
Come back when you can get a 'strategic relationship' with Boeing on a project aiming squarely at their cash cow like C919 is.
I'll be real surprised if such a project is not shutdown by US from day one, not that I believe japan has the industrial expertise and capacity for one anyway.

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SamuraiBlue said:

Mitsubishi Regional Jet(MRJ) already has 223 confirmed order and another 164 options mainly by foreign airliners if you must know.
The reason why they have such early success is because they had tied strategic relationship with Boeing in providing the after sales support which is essential in marketing commercial airliners.
Kawasaki on the other hand mostly abandoned their ambitions of entering this market even though they have a airframe mostly completed utilizing the P-1 as basis seeing the complexity of entering such a market requiring a massive overhead in support.
As I have said multiple times the product is only part of the whole equation in successfully marketing a commercial airliner.

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SamuraiBlue said:

Simple Airbus didn't provide the support hub in Japan like Boeing did since Airbus did not see a large enough market in Japan alone which had been dominated by Boeing and would be spilling money. Remember the Chicken or the egg analogy I in my earlier post well, airbus just took the later road. That is all.

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SamuraiBlue said:

Talk about belittling oneself, making comments about conspiracy. I guess that will be your defense if C919 does not make a dashing entry to the west.
Grow up, Japan had seen western resistance in to their market from the 50's. Some made it, some didn't the only thing that made it work was their dedicated perseverance that they will succeed and not talk about any petty conspiracy theories.

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AssassinsMace said:

Let's remember China is the largest market for new passenger airliners in the world. The C919 doesn't need to be bought by the Japanese, the Europeans, or the US. It just needs to be bought in China. That's why Obama is thinking of filing a WTO complaint under the charge any domestic airliner China produces is subsidized. He doesn't want China buying its own airliner because it will hurt Boeing and Airbus.

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AssassinsMace said:

Let's remember China is the largest market for new passenger airliners in the world. The C919 doesn't need to be bought by the Japanese, the Europeans, or the US. It just needs to be bought in China. That's why Obama is thinking of filing a WTO complaint under the charge any domestic airliner China produces is subsidized. He doesn't want China buying its own airliner because it will hurt Boeing and Airbus.

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SamuraiBlue said:

First the US filed similar complaints when EU was financing AB developing one of their airplane.
Second WTO only counts for international transaction and does not have any jurisdiction within domestic market.

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AssassinsMace said:

Let's remember China is the largest market for new passenger airliners in the world. The C919 doesn't need to be bought by the Japanese, the Europeans, or the US. It just needs to be bought in China. That's why Obama is thinking of filing a WTO complaint under the charge any domestic airliner China produces is subsidized. He doesn't want China buying its own airliner because it will hurt Boeing and Airbus.

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