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Banned Idiot
achilles heel of the China aircraft manufacturer is there inability or lack of technological know-how to fabricate single pieces of large (very large)composite material for the aircraft fuselage.
 
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bladerunner

Banned Idiot
I think when Chinese jets start flying there will be so many countrys wanting to order, becasue right now if u are refused from Western countrys u have no other opition but soon there will be one from China

AS POINTED OUT EARLIER; CERTIFICATION would be the deciding factor. The only countries I know of that have a complete trade ban against them is Cuba and Burma. I dont think theres a ban in selling civilian aircraft to Venezuela. or any other South American Country.
 

LesAdieux

Junior Member
Comac Says C919 Will Be Cheaper Than Boeing, Airbus

Sept. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China said its first commercial jet will “surely be cheaper” than comparable-sized Boeing Co. and Airbus SAS models as the country seeks to develop its own aerospace sector.

The 168-seater C919 will use as much as 15 percent less fuel than current Boeing 737s and Airbus A320s, Chen Jin, Comac’s sales head, said at the Hong Kong air show, where the company is showing a model of the plane for the first time.

Comac will initially target Chinese customers for the C919 before seeking to challenge Boeing and Airbus overseas for single-aisle plane orders, the largest segment of the market. The plane is part of China’s push to develop its own technologies in a range of industries to move beyond being a low-cost assembler for overseas companies.

“Our home market is the biggest market and has the most the potential, so it’s unnecessary to pursue overseas sales just yet,” Chen said. “In the future though, we will surely go into Europe and the U.S.”

The plane’s development schedule will likely coincide with a surge in aircraft orders worldwide as airlines move ahead with fleet plans delayed by the global recession, Chen said.
 

lcloo

Captain
In today's opening of 2009 Asia Airshow in Hong Kong.

2009亚洲航空展览会暨论坛于2009年9月8日在香港亚洲国际博览馆正式开幕。

  中国商用飞机有限责任公司的首个大型客机研发项目C919外形样机于9月8日在香港举行的亚洲国际航空展上正式亮相。这也是国产C919客机首次在世人面前亮相,至此,国产大飞机的神秘面纱终于揭开。这是C919首次向国际市场亮相。150座级C919客机是最大的商用航空项目,将由来自亚洲和欧美的国际合作伙伴携手开发。

C919 is making its first international public appearance in model form. It has 150 seat, and will be make in co-operation with other Asian, European and US partners.

I got photo but I can't copy them from my computer. It is a twin engine aircraft similar to Airbus A320.
 

hightlow

Just Hatched
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bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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In today's opening of 2009 Asia Airshow in Hong Kong.

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C919 is making its first international public appearance in model form. It has 150 seat, and will be make in co-operation with other Asian, European and US partners.

I got photo but I can't copy them from my computer. It is a twin engine aircraft similar to Airbus A320.

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Will GE win the engine sweepstakes for the C919??
:china: A model of the 150-seat C919 passenger plane is displayed at the Asian Aerospace Expo in Hong Kong September 8, 2009. China's main aircraft maker will select engine suppliers for its home-grown big aircraft project C919 by the end of 2009, a senior executive said on Tuesday.
 

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
what about iran? i think they can't get western civil aircraft?

They cant buy American planes and the US govt only had a trade ban pertaining to selected items since 79, and I do remember reading that the Iranian Govt had concluded an agreement to purchase 10 Airbuses from France/ Uk in 2002/3. So it appears that they can turn to Europe, depending on the diplomatic situation at the time.


THis brings me to another point about the Chances of Chinese success in long range aircraft in 300-400 passenger capacity. One would only have to look at the demise of Madonell Douglas. ITs last plane the MD11 would suggest that it isnt just about engines that can determine the outcome of the venture.
And then theres Lockheed, which flagged away passenger aircraft manufacturing after the TRi Star
 
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They cant buy American planes and the US govt only had a trade ban pertaining to selected items since 79, and I do remember reading that the Iranian Govt had concluded an agreement to purchase 10 Airbuses from France/ Uk in 2002/3. So it appears that they can turn to Europe, depending on the diplomatic situation at the time.


THis brings me to another point about the Chances of Chinese success in long range aircraft in 300-400 passenger capacity. One would only have to look at the demise of Madonell Douglas. ITs last plane the MD11 would suggest that it isnt just about engines that can determine the outcome of the venture.
And then theres Lockheed, which flagged away passenger aircraft manufacturing after the TRi Star

Didn't Iran purchase a couple of Y-8 aircraft about 2 years ago? What ever happened to those planes? Was the order ever confirmed?
 

kroko

Senior Member
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Will GE win the engine sweepstakes for the C919??

uhhh, i doubt any airline outside china will buy that plane. Just like russian planes.
 
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