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solarz

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Go to the comments section on Liberty Prime or Enclave video and you’ll understand why there are so many MAGAs.
Which is hilarious because they because they actually think Fallout is patriotic.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I'm not very fond of playing any setting that takes place in Japan, but that's just me. It's the main reason why I couldn't get into Sekiero or The Ghost of Tsushima even if admittedly they are good games. I'm more curious about the plot here. Are we playing as a Japanese or someone else, and if someone else, what are we doing there?

Think of Showa American Story, except with more ruins and desolation. I would model it after FO3, where the main story isn't particularly important and the focus is on exploration and atmosphere.
 
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Iracundus

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Which is hilarious because they because they actually think Fallout is patriotic.

That's because they miss the message. The United States of the Fallout universe was what MAGAs admire even though it was the kind of power that led to the nuclear war and the destruction of human society. It was basically fascism in the guise of democracy, unashamedly nationalistic and imperialistic (it invaded and conquered Canada), McCarthyistic, probably racist. It was the jumped up Leave it to Beaver kind of stereotypical idealistic United States that the MAGAs look to as some bygone golden age to aspire to. They completely miss the point that it was meant to be the villain.
 

tygyg1111

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Which is hilarious because they because they actually think Fallout is patriotic.



Think of Showa American Story, except with more ruins and desolation. I would model it after FO3, where the main story isn't particularly important and the focus is on exploration and atmosphere.
I have a conspiracy theory regarding the canonical Fallout story:

After a second playthrough of FO4 whilst completely ignoring the story missions, I began to see a different world to the one painted by official canon. Observations such as Chinese submarines being able to just sail into Boston harbor, and the unexploded air dropped megaton class nuclear bombs in FO3 and NV indicated that US conventional forces were totally annihilated prior to the nuclear phase of the war. That the most common things in the wasteland were weapons, ammunition, drugs / medicine suggested a level of standardized manufacturing far beyond the capabilities visibly apparent in the wasteland; in fact, it is more likely the result of an external supply chain.

Which got me thinking how this would all tie together:

A conventionally defeated USA resorted to nuclear blackmail via attempting limited strikes to give the world a taste of the possibility of nuclear holocaust once it saw the war was unwinnable, however it botched the move and was punitively struck by the remaining members of the UN. Somehow the US nuclear arsenal was not able to be fully utilized; whether from sabotage, refusal of orders or just plain dysfunctional incompetence of an empire on its last legs, however the intention was clear and triggered a MAD response from Russia and China. While this reset the US to the stone age again, the rest of the world was comparatively unscathed, only suffering 'a scratch' here and there, and was able to rebuild in the 200 years following. The US, on the other hand, was weighed down by total devastation across country and society, with even the protective measures of the vaults being cynically devised experiments designed to extract and stretch rather than protect its inhabitants.

The present day Fallout setting (200 years into the future) paints a radioactive dustbowl America used by the rest of the world as a mine for valuable genetic data and medical experimentation, using local outfits such as the BOS as the miners, in exchange for outdated surplus arms, ammunition, medical supplies and drugs for a little bit of side profit. The non existent contact a regular wastelander had with the outside world meant that the internal propaganda of the US just before annihilation stuck as the truth, with no way of being disproven. The battles between factions were in reality just cartel wars over who controls the genetic specimen and drug distribution trade, whilst the actions of the protagonists throughout the Fallout series were just the adventures of misinformed bumpkins.
 

tygyg1111

Captain
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As a side note, it's funny how many American players of FO4 think the Brotherhood are fascists and prefer the Railroad. One faction is literally fighting off threats to humanity while the other is only interested in helping out a particular class of people that represents a tiny minority.
The Brotherhood seek to keep the populace in the stone age, with themselves the only group with the right to wield technology. The only difference to the present day silicon valley faction is that the Brotherhood don't seek to use the populace as a slavish source of revenue.

The railroad are the fallout version of shitlibs; their very cause for existence is to be against another group, rather than standing for something on their own. They're the very definition of expending maximum effort for minimum gain.
 
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