Chinese UCAV/CCA/Loyal Wingman (sensor, A2A and A2G) thread

ACuriousPLAFan

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Is that even a loyal wingman, though, or a UCAV? Was not FL-2 announced as a transport drone and generally as a demonstrator project?
I guess it could also be used as a tanker or even a bomb carrier.
Though, given the company which is allegedly behind the project, the hong Tian Guide Control Technology Co Ltd, which doesn't seem to have lots of experience with complex drones - one might expect this to be a mockup. For something this complex they might be better served seeking cooperation with one of the more experienced drone and aircraft making companies.

I believe that the bomber role would be taken by the (V)LO FL-71 (if the UCAV does exist beyond blueprint stage) instead of the FL-2, which should be more of a (V)LO transport UAV.

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A design/utility patent (?) illustrations of a VTOL stealth UCAV design. The foldable wings hints at the design being intended for carrier operations. These drawings don't necessarily indicate an active project. Sharing these here for documentary purposes only.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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Some new development on the naval U(C)AV frontier.

So far, there appears to have three viable U(C)AV candidates for use onboard PLAN flat-decks (CVs and/or LHDs) in the future:

#1 - (Navalized) WZ-10 (likely ~3 tons) from Chengdu AC;
#2 - A new-type UCAV with a conventional wing layout (likely ~5-6 tons if not ~8 tons) from Chengdu AC; and
#3 - GJ-11 (likely ~10-15 tons) from Hongdu AC (and designed by Shenyang AC).

The GJ-11's probability as a carrier-based UCAV in the future should be mostly certain by this point, so it remains to be seen whether either of the two U(C)AVs (or both) from Chengdu will make it onboard the PLAN's flight decks (with the 2nd one being the more likely option).

The #2 UCAV should be related to (if not the main subject itself of) these. I believe the first two pictures have been posted in this thread sometime ago.

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And an academic paper related to said UCAV:
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The above and below information, papers and illustrations are posted by @伏尔戈星图 on Weibo. Considering his reputation, I suggest taking them with some grains of salt until things are clearer/confirmed.
 
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ACuriousPLAFan

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Continued from the above post: Here are the academic papers and patent(s) on what could be the navalized variant of WZ-10, alongside the focus on adjustable/new-type of arresting gears for catching light-weight, slow-flying U(C)AVs. Posted by the same guy on Weibo.


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ACuriousPLAFan

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GJ-11 likely spotted again, this time at Gaobeidian in Hebei.

Additional note.

Have a closer look at that flying wing UAV.
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Are those a pair of angled vertical stabilizers placed at the rear of the UAV?

I have never seen such design on the GJ-11 or any flying wing UAV of Chinese design. Could this be an unknown brand new model?

Spotted once again just recently.

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Also spotted at Gaobeidian is yet another (U(C)AV) mockup that has wings with a large sweep angle for high speeds and two vertical stabilizers, which honestly looks quite similar to the one model carried underneath a H-6MW more than a month ago:

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Both photos were posted by
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For comparison with the one found underneath the H-6MW in late-April:

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Alongside the MD-22 from Zhuhai 2022 for comparison (though looks to be less matching):

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