Chinese UAV/UCAV development

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Blitzo

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That would be the WZ-2000, which is a U/CAV similar to that of the Xiang Long, but different.

I thought this, was the WZ-2000?
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This was called the xianglong
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And this again is called the xianglong? (huitong's calling it the soaring eagle, but I think the name on the plane isn't)
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As tphuang said, very confusing.

The recently released Soar Dragon U/CAV is also capable of carrying C-701 anti ship / air to surface missiles.

Is it? all the models we've seen shows it only as a surveillance UAV, not a ucav. I can't imagine its joined wing is strong enough to support a couple of AShMs either.

StrategyCenter also suggested that China may be developing (or has developed) a delta wing jet powered UCAV capable of carrying the BA-7 anti tank missile. It apparently would be the world's first CAS (close air support) UCAV.
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Take stuff from strategy center with a small pinch of salt -- besides MQ-9 has already demonstrated CAS capability. I believe Rick Fisher was just trying to fear monger a little with that to people who don't know that any uav can do CAS if they have a few missiles onboard.


China also revealed a model of an UCAV (similar in shape to the WZ-2000) that carries TY-90 missiles and an unknown antitank missile.
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I believe that model was at a stand for an optics company who were just showcasing the possible inclusion of their products on a uav, the uav itself possibly isn't under development.

I did not include the Combat Eagle heavy stealth UCAV because that is a heavy UCAV.

This is a thread about all uavs and ucavs, why not include it?
I'll talk about it though -- a forward swept wing, ucav in the class of X-45/X-47B that will fly sometime around 2012. That's all we know.
 

kyanges

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Was is really FSW, or was it just a picture taken backwards? XD . I can hardly tell any of the new UCAVs from any country apart.
 

delft

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Re: Innovative New Chinese UAV Emerges

Soar Dragon might have a similar purpose as the Boeing project mentioned by AW&ST, at developing an aircraft capable of carrying an airframe-integrated, 360-deg.-coverage, high-resolution radar and remaining on station for 30 hr. at 2,000 nm range.
It would then provide Varyag with the AEW it can't yet carry itself.
 

SinoSoldier

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I thought this, was the WZ-2000?
WZ-2000.jpg


This was called the xianglong
TC1.jpg

These are the WZ-2000. The original Xiang Long was never built.

And this again is called the xianglong? (huitong's calling it the soaring eagle, but I think the name on the plane isn't)
SoarEagle1.jpg



As tphuang said, very confusing.

Soar Dragon, or Soar Eagle, or Xiang Long. This is the actual Xiang Long.

People have been mixing up the photos of the WZ-2000 prototype with the name "Xiang Long". Me included.




Is it? all the models we've seen shows it only as a surveillance UAV, not a ucav. I can't imagine its joined wing is strong enough to support a couple of AShMs either.

C-701 is a very light missile, almost half the warhead weight as the AGM-65 Maverick. More of an air to surface missile than anything else.

Take stuff from strategy center with a small pinch of salt -- besides MQ-9 has already demonstrated CAS capability. I believe Rick Fisher was just trying to fear monger a little with that to people who don't know that any uav can do CAS if they have a few missiles onboard.


The MQ-9 is not technically a CAS UCAV used to support ground forces, but more like a pinpoint strike UCAV. The poster shown in the report was not made by Mr. Fisher. It was taken from a Chinese exhibition.

The BA-7 which the delta winged UCAV carries also have been already been revealed, developed, and tested, suggesting that the UCAV may have some meat after all.

Different posters of the same UCAV have been posted on many Chinese websites. I believe the name they are giving it is the "Thunderbolt UCAV".




I believe that model was at a stand for an optics company who were just showcasing the possible inclusion of their products on a uav, the uav itself possibly isn't under development.

If that is true, then it achieves the same effect. By effectively mounting a TY-90 and anti tank missile rack onto a UAV like the WZ-2000 or Xiang Long, it would turn the former into UCAVs.

This is a thread about all uavs and ucavs, why not include it?
I'll talk about it though -- a forward swept wing, ucav in the class of X-45/X-47B that will fly sometime around 2012. That's all we know.

The Combat Eagle, if it retains its forward swept wing configuration, would have substantially superior maneuverability (subsonic and supersonic) than the X-47, Taranis, nEUROn, and Skat.

It might also interest you to know that the Shenyang Darksword has been abandoned.
 

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These are the WZ-2000. The original Xiang Long was never built. Soar Dragon, or Soar Eagle, or Xiang Long. This is the actual Xiang Long.

People have been mixing up the photos of the WZ-2000 prototype with the name "Xiang Long". Me included.

I don't think so, I am quite sure they are two different aircraft. There is a significant differene between the xianglong model and the WZ-2000 model.
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C-701 is a very light missile, almost half the warhead weight as the AGM-65 Maverick. More of an air to surface missile than anything else.

It's a very light anti ship missile, and there's nothing to suggest that it can be carried by any chinese ucavs in service or under development.

The MQ-9 is not technically a CAS UCAV used to support ground forces, but more like a pinpoint strike UCAV. The poster shown in the report was not made by Mr. Fisher. It was taken from a Chinese exhibition.
The BA-7 which the delta winged UCAV carries also have been already been revealed, developed, and tested, suggesting that the UCAV may have some meat after all.

How exactly did the poster at said exhibition detail the CAS use of their ucav? Because I've seen the poster and it doesn't look any different to the MQ-9 or even MQ-1's use.

Unless their ucav has significant armoud, much greater loitering capability and payload or something I believe it is either that the company producing the ucav was hyping up the capabilities, it was lost in translation, or fisher was spinning.

If that is true, then it achieves the same effect. By effectively mounting a TY-90 and anti tank missile rack onto a UAV like the WZ-2000 or Xiang Long, it would turn the former into UCAVs.

My point was that the particular uav the company displayed their optics on probably isn't under development.

The Combat Eagle, if it retains its forward swept wing configuration, would have substantially superior maneuverability (subsonic and supersonic) than the X-47, Taranis, nEUROn, and Skat.

How would a FSW configuration immediately mean better manouverability? Besides X-47, Taranis aren't exactly meant to manouver or partake in dogfights, just deliver the bombs and fly away.
And I'm certain none of the ucavs you mentioned are capable of maintaining supersonic speeds...

It might also interest you to know that the Shenyang Darksword has been abandoned.

I was never sure that particular project had any water behind it in the first place tbh.
 

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China's Pterodactyl UAV

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China's Pterodactyl UAV

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China's Pterodactyl UAV carries HJ-10 anti-helicopter/anti-tank missiles with 10+ km range

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"The Pterodactyl is capable of being fitted with a variety of sensors, including a forward-looking infrared turret and synthetic aperture radar;[2] in addition, the aircraft is capable of carrying weapons.[4] The Pterodactyl I's total payload capacity for sensors and weapons is 200 kilograms (440 lb).[2]"

[Note: Thank you to HouShanghai for the pictures.]
 

Blitzo

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The first pic doesn't show the same UAV as the last few I believe. It looks way smaller actually.
 
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