Chinese Trainer Aircraft (JL-8, JL-9, JL-10 (L-15), etc.)

国产新型山鹰高教机通过技术鉴定即将批量生产
2009年10月01日 07:21 新华网

新华网贵阳9月30日电 (记者王丽)我国高技术水平的新一代高级教练机——山鹰新型高级教练机，经过空军装备部组织专家的详细评审，9月30日通过技术鉴定。这标志着外界广泛关注的贵航山鹰新型高级教练机向设计定型迈出关键一步。

“山鹰”是我国高技术水平的新一代高级教练机，它的研制成功标志着中国自行设计的高级教练机已进入世界先进行列。近年来，随着我军航空武器装备不断更新换代，特别是第三代战斗机及第二代改型飞机批量装备部队，对飞行员训练提出了新的要求，提高训练效益，需研制一型机载设备和人机界面适应第三代战斗机训练要求的新型高级教练机。

贵航集团在研究国内外高级教练机的发展趋势和市场需求的基础上，按“共同开发、共同投资、共担风险、共享利益”原则，开展了山鹰新型高级教练机的研制。2007年，山鹰飞机获国家正式立项，2008年完成部队领先试用总装，今年1月，完成全机可靠性鉴定试验，研制总要求获得批复，6月完成部队领先使用空地勤培训。此次通过技术鉴定评审后，“山鹰”即将进入批量生产。

据悉，“山鹰”高级教练机选装了国内成熟、先进的功能系统和机载设备，采用高升阻比双三角机翼、机身两侧肋下进气的常规气动布局，配装了较为先进的航电系统，采用技术成熟的机械系统和机载设备，能够很好地满足战斗机飞行员的训练需求，适用于空、海军飞行学员的高级训练，航空部队飞行员改装及作战训练。

技术鉴定前，两架山鹰飞机于9月18日通过了各科目战术指标严酷考验。山鹰飞机型号总设计师孙惠忠说，飞机研制符合通用化、系列化、组合化的要求，完成了规定的各项地面试验和设计定型试飞，达到研制总要求中规定战术指标和使用要求。

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tphuang said:

regarding JJ-9
Talks about JJ-9 passing technology examination to start mass production. Apparently, this was finished in Sep 30. It says that it first started test deployment in 2008. It talks about undergoing different types of testing this year and different training exercises.

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Semi-Lobster said:

I wonder if we'll see active service of the JJ-9 by next year?

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tphuang said:

see, I was under the impression JJ-9 is already in active service (meaning in training schools I guess) and is now just starting mass production (they finalized the design I guess). It's taken a lot longer than we all thought.

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Semi-Lobster said:

Even though its taken a long time, at least its still a lot closer to service than the L-15, I still believe there a is a place for both aircraft in the PLAAF and PLANAF and both aircraft have pretty good export potential as well, especially with the connections AVIC has made with the success of the JL-8/K-8.

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tphuang said:

yeah, Hongdu is really disappointing me with L-15. And the more embarrassing part is that they can't even develop a basic trainer and have to do co-production with Yakolev. It must have taken a miracle for them to develop K-8s. I still don't know how that happened.

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The Bolivian government authorized the purchase for $ 57.8 million six Chinese combat aircraft to the fight against drug trafficking, after ruling out the acquisition of Czech manufacturing similar ships, reported local media on Friday.

The decree signed by President Evo Morales said that the military equipment will be "a contribution to the regional fight against drug trafficking, ensuring proper control of the national airspace in sensitive areas and affected by this problem," reported the newspaper El Deber.

The Bolivian government decided to purchase the Chinese K-8 aircraft (Karakorum), after denouncing the United States did not authorize the sale Czech Republic to Bolivia the same number of planes, after La Paz last year to expel the ambassador and the U.S. DEA.

Defense Minister Walker San Miguel, Morales announced that the ruling will give details of the purchase on 10 October, to mark the day of the Bolivian Air Force.

Bolivia has no warplanes.

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tphuang said:

more K-8 sales, this one is for 6 to Bolivia. I think we discussed about this before.

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“山鹰”新高教机通过技术鉴定评审我国空、海军将小批量领先试用
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　本报讯 9月28~29日，贵航集团研制的“山鹰”新型高级教练机在贵阳顺利通过技术鉴定评审。通过评审后，我国空、海军部队将小批量装备试用该新型高教机，未来该机也将成为贵航集团外贸出口新亮点。
　　专家组成员经过详细评审，一致认为“山鹰”飞机达到军工产品技术鉴定标准。研制单位已完成全部研制工作，研制、试验中出现的技术问题已经解决，产品符合通用化、系列化、组合化，满足研制总要求。
　　技术鉴定前，两架“山鹰”飞机于9月中旬通过了各科目战术指标的严酷考验。试飞员试飞评述认为：飞机有着较好的起降性能和高度、速度特性，爬升性能好, 载油量较大，航程较远，续航时间较长。在中低空、亚音速范围内，飞机有着良好的机动性能，能够完成复杂、高级特技动作，可靠性、维修性、测试性和保障性满足使用要求。在技术鉴定会上，“山鹰”总设计师孙惠忠全面介绍了飞机的研制工作情况。飞机研制完成了规定的各项地面试验和设计定型试飞，达到研制总要求中规定的战术指标和使用要求。
　　“山鹰”飞机自启动研制以来，不断创造新的奇迹：贵航集团仅用8个月时间就完成设计发图，3个月时间完成模具设计和工装制造，3个月时间完成了部装任务，3个月时间完成了总装和首飞。2005年12月通过原中国一航组织的技术鉴定。2006年，贵航集团根据部队装备需要和鉴定试飞中提出的改进改装建议，全面启动了飞机改进改装工作，仅用2个月时间，就完成了全部改进改装任务。2007年，“山鹰”飞机获国家正式立项，2008年完成部队领先试用总装。今年1月，贵航集团完成全机可靠性鉴定试验，飞机研制总要求获得批复，6月完成部队领先使用空地勤培训。此次通过技术鉴定评审后，“山鹰”随即可转入批量生产。

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tphuang said:

more in depth on JJ-9

The history went something like this.
Took 8 months to finish the design blueprints.
Took 3 months to finish the module design and build the production tools
Took 3 months to produce the parts assembly
Took 3 months to do final assembly and then the first flight.
In December 2005, it passed AVIC1's design inspection.
(personally, I thought at this point, it was going to join the air force, but ...)
In 2006, GAIG did Improvement work based on suggestions from certification flight testing and new air force requirements..
It took just 2 months to complete the redesign.
In 2007, Shanying project became an official national project (I think that's when you know you will get orders from the air force)
In 2008, it completed alpha testing assembly?
This January, GAIG completed plane reliability certification testing.
The general requirement of aircraft development received approval.
In June, it finished some kind of training program.
Now in late September, after passing technology certification review, Shanying can start mass production.

Now, JJ-9 will start limited production for air force and naval. It will also be GAIG's newest export item (don't ask me, it didn't hint if it had any leads). Either way, this shows that Shanying actually had a major redesign after first conducting testing in 2006. I would imagine that PLA pretty much got the plane that it wanted by now.

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