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Lieutenant General
Yes, the most powerful propaganda is speaking from the truth.
Chinese Soft Power and Media Discussion and Updates
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Propaganda works best when it is undetected (see 10 second segment below). That's why the imperial west goes through great effort to disguise itself. You see it all the time: fake ngos, propaganda hidden in entertainment, churches as trojan horses, fake "independent" media, fake human rights organizations like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, fake dissidents/defectors, fake sources like Adrian Zenz, etc.
This is why it is so important to expose these deceptions because it weak the west's psychological warfare greatly.
I recommend you watch the whole thing.
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This is why it is so important to expose these deceptions because it weak the west's psychological warfare greatly.
I recommend you watch the whole thing.
for those not logged in - . be/F7HmFH-Wo1s?t=526
Why not provide a ? propaganda. n. 2. the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
That seems innocent, doesn't it? Well, according to the same dictionary, refers to "a member of a group of peoples of eastern and southern Myanmar". But in common usage, "Karen" means something very different. The dictionary is very out of date.
According to the , "Propaganda is the more or less systematic effort to manipulate other people's beliefs". This is closer to modern usage. Note the word manipulate in the definition; this has sinister connotations, as manipulation often leads to lying.
Trim out the non sequitors.
Cool. Y'know, I believe Yang Jiechi's fantastic mature hairline is another of China's greatest weapons, it's probably a major reason why he was able to cow Sullivan at the Alaska summit.
Didn't realize making one post was "expending so much effort." So are you willing to testify this effort load when I redeem my Xibucks this week?
First you breath oxygen and drink water to stay alive. Then you literally become a serial killer!!! Oh brother.
1) completely missed the point of Lenin's comment, which is that all his suggestions (India's colonial policy, starving Berliners etc.) for the state to propagandize are entirely truthful things. You might've noticed if you actually read his words.
2) hilariously simplified down something like the breakdown of the Soviet system for the sake of an internet rebuttal and regurgitating Western talking points at same time? Nice to see you earn that Canadian location tag, fellow North American.
3) Lenin was perfect. You'd know if you've seen his handlebar.
Apologies for taking the piss out of your reply but since you seemed to have basically just glanced over everything I wrote and thought the best way to respond was to not respond and talk to a strawman instead, I've chosen amp down the seriousness and reply in kind.
So answer me this: when you replied to me, did you actually think you had a good chance of convincing me? I didn't when I wrote that first post. The point for both of us was to sway the lurkers in the audience reading this and possibly earn some fancy emoji updoots: is Loveleenkr going to approve and give a laughing emoji or disapprove and give an angry one? The readers here might fully support you, good for you then, but don't you think it would be wrong to let me spout off my opinion to the thread unopposed as if it's the only possible view on the subject? You responded, after all.
TL;DR, that was an analogy where the same goes for China's global diplomacy with the audience being the Global South. The West is spouting off whatever narratives it can make up to boost itself and blacken China's image. This isn't the 20th century anymore where it was in China's interests to stand back and take it when it gets smeared like this. It must respond in kind by promoting its image and exposing Western hypocrisy. This is the type of action that Lenin was calling for and unless you've fully drunk that Canadian education kool aid and believe the West is some blameless humanitarian saint where China needs to make up smears in order to respond, China has no need to lie in this campaign whatsoever. There are centuries worth of truths on the atrocities the West (the basic premise of the brutal colonizers of a century past laughably pretending to be the moral leaders of the modern world) has committed which China can present but the point is that it needs to respond.
Thankfully, irrespective of the opinions of us foreign randoms, the people who matter in China have recently shown that they do fully understand this concern. Just as how it can be acknowledged that China's semiconductor industry has made progress yet still more can be done, Chinese policy leaders have publicly stated that the same can be said for China on this front:
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This is nitpicking. And, you're selectively showing the part you want readers to believe (you skipped the blurb at the start)
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People can debate for days on the meaning of manipulation. It's a pointless academic exercise. For example, a mother tells her child to eat vegetables because it's good for their health. That can be considered manipulation. Yet, is that deceptive? No. Deception is what you have a problem with, right? So it's not so cut and dry. Again, no one is telling China is lie.
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