Chinese Soft Power and Media Discussion and Updates

coolgod

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The thing is even Tiktok is banned in China, so Butedance has its own version(Douyin) just for China .
??? Western arrogance on full display. Douyin came first, Bytedance then made Tiktok for western audiences.

In fact many people didn't even know tiktok was owned by a Chinese company until the US started targeting them..there is nothing Chinese in tiktok to be honest..So that's the wrong place to try to push Chinese soft power.
You're probably the type of people who say the media isn't owned and controlled by the "Chinese" and can't realize how the media pushes "Chinese" values and worldviews on you. Good for you! :)
 

Rank Amateur

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This is from the old times when the US wasn't scared of getting run over by China.

And what is your understanding of it? My understanding is that there is no such thing as soft power because in order to be a power, it must have coercive force that can be used in the event of conflict. Media idolization is only a grease that aids friendliness when the foundation and basis was already amicable, but when hostile, it will be completely unable to penetrate the hard demand and insistance for one's own interests over those of others'.

For example, people often point to Japan as a giant of soft power because of its cultural exports and cartoon industry, as well as a fan following in almost every country. However, I argue that no such power exists because while the Japanese may have cultivated some fans, those people are marginalized in their societies (because the strongest people of every society are always rooted deeply in their own culture without idolization of others) and would be of no help to Japan in any conflict. When the US coerces Japan into signing some agreement that is to America's advantage, the anime fans have no ability to stave this off; America's politicians will coerce with the threat of sanctions until the Japanese capitulate. If they put up any fight at all, general American comments roll in that somebody needs 2 more bombs to remember their place.

So... my conclusion is that there is no such thing as soft power. If you want respect, admiration and a meaningful following, hard power and strength is all you need. Ironically, some in the CCP talk about the need to cultivate soft power and those are the CCP members who truly have a poor understanding of soft power.

"For example, people often point to Japan as a giant of soft power .... When the US coerces Japan into signing some agreement that is to America's advantage, the anime fans have no ability to stave this off; America's politicians will coerce with the threat of sanctions until the Japanese capitulate. If they put up any fight at all, general American comments roll in that somebody needs 2 more bombs to remember their place."

Or, as the old saying goes:

The dogs [of soft power] bark, but the caravan [of U.S. military sex crimes] moves on.
 

horse

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I was just talking about CCP's lack of understanding of soft power.

Chinese soft power is different.

Seems to me American software is all about expansion, imperialism or cultural imperialism.

Chinese soft power seems to be is just to be good, or do better, or be cool. No need for cultural imperialism.

American soft power is to export American values, to make others to want to be American.

Chinese understand soft power, but they think America soft power sucks, because China in not interested in turning the world Chinese, unlike American soft power.

So I suspect, the purpose of Chinese soft power, is to promote Chinese culture. Period. No further point is needed.

However, the mere promotion of Chinese soft power, which is to promote Chinese culture, kind of ushers in a bipolar or multi-polar world, where diversity is sough.

To me, that is the biggest difference, and most most important point, that Chinese soft power is to promote China and promote a multi-polar world in all realms.

Whereas the West, it is the same old story, American soft power will be shoved down people's throats continuously.

Just like what that 1984 wrote about.

What is the future? Imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever!
 

coolgod

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Full ceremony:

Looks like China is going full out on promoting Confucianism to the world. This seems like a much better path than promoting communism around the world as the Soviet Union showed how disastrous that was. Confucianism is also conducive in establishing order, something the world sorely needs right now.


Chinese foreign media is getting better:)
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tankphobia

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Full ceremony:

Looks like China is going full out on promoting Confucianism to the world. This seems like a much better path than promoting communism around the world as the Soviet Union showed how disastrous that was. Confucianism is also conducive in establishing order, something the world sorely needs right now.


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Cultures are largely shaped by the environment people are in, an often repeated reasoning for highly hierarchical/conformist cultures in Asia came about because of the need to plant rice as a community, a labour heavy task. This eventually made it's way into the cultural identity of sinosphere.

Attempting to spread this way of thinking aboard is extremely difficult unless you fundamentally change the environment you're attempting to spread culture to, Confucianism is not solving any pressing issues around the world, unlike how communism was all about toppling kingdoms and taking from the rich, you'll find people hard pressed to be converted.
 

Overbom

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Attempting to spread this way of thinking aboard is extremely difficult unless you fundamentally change the environment you're attempting to spread culture to, Confucianism is not solving any pressing issues around the world, unlike how communism was all about toppling kingdoms and taking from the rich, you'll find people hard pressed to be converted
Seems like the best way for foreign countries to start is embrace Legalism which is easier for people to understand and accept. And when that is implemented, as long as their rulers follow a long term strategic plan, they can start with Confucianism

But yeah, these political and moral theories are heavily influenced by the surrounding environment. You probably want US-style soft power/influence dominance to achieve good results

Sceptical
 

SanWenYu

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Cultures are largely shaped by the environment people are in, an often repeated reasoning for highly hierarchical/conformist cultures in Asia came about because of the need to plant rice as a community, a labour heavy task. This eventually made it's way into the cultural identity of sinosphere.

Attempting to spread this way of thinking aboard is extremely difficult unless you fundamentally change the environment you're attempting to spread culture to, Confucianism is not solving any pressing issues around the world, unlike how communism was all about toppling kingdoms and taking from the rich, you'll find people hard pressed to be converted.
I don’t think China wants to spread Confucianism, including proactively trying to convert anyone into believing Confucianism. The goal instead is to show the influences of Confucianism on the Chinese culture. If I am understanding it correctly, the Chinese government seems to be promoting Confucianism as being peaceful and tolerant to differences, according to the meaning of 中庸之道, therefore to convince others that this is how China thinks, talks and walks.
 
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