Chinese Soft Power and Media Discussion and Updates

zhangjim

Junior Member
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China should forbid the term Lunar New Year. It's Chinese New Year. It's a joke that Asian countries dare to celebrate their "Lunar New Year"
This incident has caused many people to feel dissatisfied. A conspiracy theory is emerging, which is believed to be the deliberate disintegration of the influence and uniqueness of Chinese culture by the West.

I think South Korea and Vietnam (sometimes including Japan) have skillfully used the political correctness of the West and the difficulties of Chinese Internet users in foreign exchanges.
Koreans have spent considerable investment in these propaganda. This has made some people feel a sense of crisis. After China loses its dominant position in East Asia, even the dominant position of culture is in danger of being usurped.

——Although it seems to me that the Korean madness is pushing them rapidly over the cliff of credibility bankruptcy. According to this trend, no one will pay attention to their crazy words in a few years, but the current situation is really very unpleasant.
 

Biscuits

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Some people are over thinking it, some people are falling for copium from anti Chinese (usually American) nationalists.

As China internationalizes its culture, it must at the same time be made universal. Formerly Chinese values and Chinese events must become universal values and universal events.

We don't celebrate American Christmas, Western New Year or Saudi Arabian Eid.

The biggest driver of increased Chinese New Year reach is the increased spread of Chinese culture, to the point where local ethnicities may make their own variation of celebrations, and this is something China is and should be more than happy to accept.

If you're gonna go around slinging trademarks and patents on your culture, you won't achieve the status of an universal culture.
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
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One thing we haven't talked about: back in 2004 or so, Taiwanese were saying that the heart of Chinese culture was in Taiwan.

Anyone hear about Taiwanese media in the past 10-15 years other than comedy shows disguised as news?

Even Taiwanese movies like 后来的我们 are disguised as Chinese and set in Northern China, not Taiwan. Taiwanese media has essentially collapsed.
 

KYli

Brigadier
Chinese New Year is Chinese New Year. All Chinese inside and outside of mainland China should celebrate their Chinese New Year as such. As for Lunar New Year, that is other people's problem. If South Korea, Vietnam and political corrected Western MSM want to call Chinese New Year as Lunar New Year that is their call.

The problem is never about the West or other countries. The problem is many liberal Chinese want and think using the term Lunar New Year would be more inclusive which is completely idiotic.

In Hong Kong, the British had tried to brainwash Hong Kongers with the term Lunar New Year for decades but it didn't stop people celebrating Chinese New Year. People would say Happy New Year not Happy Lunar New year no matter how much the propaganda tried to change that.
 

Quan8410

Junior Member
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Some people are over thinking it, some people are falling for copium from anti Chinese (usually American) nationalists.

As China internationalizes its culture, it must at the same time be made universal. Formerly Chinese values and Chinese events must become universal values and universal events.

We don't celebrate American Christmas, Western New Year or Saudi Arabian Eid.

The biggest driver of increased Chinese New Year reach is the increased spread of Chinese culture, to the point where local ethnicities may make their own variation of celebrations, and this is something China is and should be more than happy to accept.

If you're gonna go around slinging trademarks and patents on your culture, you won't achieve the status of an universal culture.
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Some people are over thinking it, some people are falling for copium from anti Chinese (usually American) nationalists.

As China internationalizes its culture, it must at the same time be made universal. Formerly Chinese values and Chinese events must become universal values and universal events.

We don't celebrate American Christmas, Western New Year or Saudi Arabian Eid.

The biggest driver of increased Chinese New Year reach is the increased spread of Chinese culture, to the point where local ethnicities may make their own variation of celebrations, and this is something China is and should be more than happy to accept.

If you're gonna go around slinging trademarks and patents on your culture, you won't achieve the status of an universal culture.

China does not need to advertise anything. It's the babaric countries need to admit they are culture thieves. They import Chinese culture for thousand of years but still hostile to China as hell. Just go completely western for god shake. Chinese culture is Chinese. That's it.
 

In4ser

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China does not need to advertise anything. It's the babaric countries need to admit they are culture thieves. They import Chinese culture for thousand of years but still hostile to China as hell. Just go completely western for god shake. Chinese culture is Chinese. That's it.
Familiarity breeds contempt. Other East Asian countries adopted and understand Chinese culture so can see directly it’s flaws and negatives without seeing the West’s own issues because the West far away and more foreign (i.e. grass is greener on the other side.)

More importantly, to be separate and distinct from China, they have to emphasis differences and aggravate their own superiority (e.g. Korea specifically inventing history). Otherwise, why try to be another people or nationality instead of simply Chinese? It is through alienation of others that societies consolidate group unity.

The problem is these countries are growing old so instead of being able to adapt and learn like youth, dig into conservative beliefs and old insecurities/prejudices.
 
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zhangjim

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Familiarity breeds contempt. Other East Asian countries adopted and understand Chinese culture so can see directly it’s flaws and negatives without seeing the West’s own issues because the West far away and more foreign (i.e. grass is greener on the other side.)

More importantly, to be separate and distinct from China, they have to emphasis differences and aggravate their own superiority (e.g. Korea specifically inventing history). Otherwise, why try to be another people or nationality instead of simply Chinese? It is through alienation of others that societies consolidate group unity.

The problem is these countries are growing old so instead of being able to adapt and learn like youth, dig into conservative beliefs and old insecurities/prejudices.
For Chinese, Vietnam, South Korea and Japan are different.
Vietnam is a country that exists because of its opposition to China. In history, this country's ambition for China's territory is second only to Japan. Therefore, the relationship between the two sides is not very good. But therefore we don't put more feelings on them either.

However, South Korea and Japan are different. What they do makes the Chinese feel a strong sense of betrayal.
Without the influence of Chinese culture, Japan is just a slowly developing tribal civilization. Japan is the adopted son of Chinese culture, and even the United States will not be as generous as we were in ancient times.
However, Japan's "repay" for China was relentless plundering, massacre, slander and containment.
In the late 19th century, Japanese scholars created a bunch of theories to try to prove that Chinese culture was "degenerate and corrupt" and could only end in subjugation and domination by outsiders.
The rise of Japanese pop culture has created a strange illusion for the Japanese: Chinese people will choose to forget history because they like Japanese pop culture,this may have played a role, but the publicity effect was soon offset by their arrogance.

The Koreans have brought the Chinese a mixture of shock and anger. In recent years, Korean attempts to usurp the dominance of Chinese culture have increased rapidly,they talked about how great they were in the past and belittled China to nothing.
Overall, the Korean peninsula is the area of greatest concern to China, which tolerated the constant expansion of Korea's borders to the north in ancient times.
When Korea faced Japanese aggression, China sent troops to help them many times.

In fact, even if they regard the past history as a "non-independent period", it is not intolerable - after all, it is the era of nationalism and sovereign state, but the Chinese people can't stand the behavior of the Korean people trying to seize the dominance of Chinese culture - in the eyes of the Chinese people, this is just as ridiculous as the Germanic barbarians claiming to have created the Roman civilization, and more ridiculous is that Rome (whether it is West Rome or East Rome) has perished, we are still alive, but these marginal countries dare to claim that they are "the heirs of China's heritage".
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
Registered Member
For Chinese, Vietnam, South Korea and Japan are different.
Vietnam is a country that exists because of its opposition to China. In history, this country's ambition for China's territory is second only to Japan. Therefore, the relationship between the two sides is not very good. But therefore we don't put more feelings on them either.

However, South Korea and Japan are different. What they do makes the Chinese feel a strong sense of betrayal.
Without the influence of Chinese culture, Japan is just a slowly developing tribal civilization. Japan is the adopted son of Chinese culture, and even the United States will not be as generous as we were in ancient times.
However, Japan's "repay" for China was relentless plundering, massacre, slander and containment.
In the late 19th century, Japanese scholars created a bunch of theories to try to prove that Chinese culture was "degenerate and corrupt" and could only end in subjugation and domination by outsiders.
The rise of Japanese pop culture has created a strange illusion for the Japanese: Chinese people will choose to forget history because they like Japanese pop culture,this may have played a role, but the publicity effect was soon offset by their arrogance.

The Koreans have brought the Chinese a mixture of shock and anger. In recent years, Korean attempts to usurp the dominance of Chinese culture have increased rapidly,they talked about how great they were in the past and belittled China to nothing.
Overall, the Korean peninsula is the area of greatest concern to China, which tolerated the constant expansion of Korea's borders to the north in ancient times.
When Korea faced Japanese aggression, China sent troops to help them many times.

In fact, even if they regard the past history as a "non-independent period", it is not intolerable - after all, it is the era of nationalism and sovereign state, but the Chinese people can't stand the behavior of the Korean people trying to seize the dominance of Chinese culture - in the eyes of the Chinese people, this is just as ridiculous as the Germanic barbarians claiming to have created the Roman civilization, and more ridiculous is that Rome (whether it is West Rome or East Rome) has perished, we are still alive, but these marginal countries dare to claim that they are "the heirs of China's heritage".
I think it is the opposite situation for Japan and South Korea. Japanese know they're in decline.
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who are bored with their own country's lack of innovation, which makes the Japanese elders even more desperate and angry. The sun is setting on Japan, and if we just wait 20-30 years, they may become moderate again as the elders get too old.

South Korea is rising. Some of them have allowed their economic rise to cloud their judgment, and believe Chinese will tolerate any insults, both current and historical, because of Kpop and Korean dramas. They are getting more and more extreme in anti-Chinese rhetoric and one of the few countries where youth are becoming more anti-China than the elders.
 

Biscuits

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Familiarity breeds contempt. Other East Asian countries adopted and understand Chinese culture so can see directly it’s flaws and negatives without seeing the West’s own issues because the West far away and more foreign (i.e. grass is greener on the other side.)

More importantly, to be separate and distinct from China, they have to emphasis differences and aggravate their own superiority (e.g. Korea specifically inventing history). Otherwise, why try to be another people or nationality instead of simply Chinese? It is through alienation of others that societies consolidate group unity.

The problem is these countries are growing old so instead of being able to adapt and learn like youth, dig into conservative beliefs and old insecurities/prejudices.
It is not about familiarity but about rulership. Rulers are rarely well liked, especially among those who think they're close enough to deserve privileges. Even with the iron grip US has on EU, just look at how often Europeans take the piss on America, both politically and culturally.

China is never going to be completely loved in SK and Japan, but it doesn't need to either. It just needs to remind them who is in charge. They can keep their quirky little identities, but they will be purged from fascist influence and their governments must follow basic international norms. This would happen one way or another, whether by slow cultural and economical osmosis, or by defeat in the battlefield if some of them make good on their threats to invade together with America.

Vietnam is not the same case as these other 2, as its a sovereign country under socialist rule. China can just keep doing the current thing with them, slowly drawing them back again. There's no real hurry with them.

Having Vietnam as part of China's collective security doesn't hurt, but it's also not going to be decisive. Just the status quo of neutrality is more than acceptable.
 
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