Chinese shipbuilding industry

Wrought

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when I was in China last Summer I was amazed at how Green the Chinese cities were

the green number plates on the vehicles meant that they are EVs

and almost 50% of the vehicles I seen on the road are EV

good infrastructure for charging too even in multi store car parks

I mean that's very cool and all, but what is the relevance of this to shipbuilding?
 

asif iqbal

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I mean that's very cool and all, but what is the relevance of this to shipbuilding?

Well I don't think Chinese are building Methanol ships just to get them drunk

its obviously related to green sustainable transport which was the topic of the last page
 

by78

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The navigation bridge section of Adora Flower City has been joined to the hull, which is now around 95% complete.

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Her stern.

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gelgoog

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50 inland methanol powered ships will be built in a Guangdong shipyard.
I think I have said this several times but there is no such thing as green methanol (CH3OH) as it is currently done. They typically mix the carbon from coal power plant smoke stacks with hydrogen which might come from wind or solar electrolysis and call it green. They are reusing the coal power plant exhaust.

But the thing is methanol is much denser and easier to store than hydrogen, so that is why it is used.

Well I don't think Chinese are building Methanol ships just to get them drunk
Methanol aka wood alcohol isn't the kind you can drink.
 
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Wrought

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Methanol aka wood alcohol isn't the kind you can drink.

Indeed, it's the kind that poisons you. Destroys your eyes and kidneys. Commercial-grade ethanol is often methylated as a deterrent against illicit consumption or sales, as anyone who's ever worked in a university lab would know.

But I figured it wasn't worth bringing up the chemistry with someone who can't tell cars from boats.
 

Andy1974

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I think I have said this several times but there is no such thing as green methanol (CH3OH) as it is currently done. They typically mix the carbon from coal power plant smoke stacks with hydrogen which might come from wind or solar electrolysis and call it green. They are reusing the coal power plant exhaust.

But the thing is methanol is much denser and easier to store than hydrogen, so that is why it is used.


Methanol aka wood alcohol isn't the kind you can drink.
But you can find it just lying around on the bottom of the ocean. As methane ice, and you can just pick it up.
 

gelgoog

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But you can find it just lying around on the bottom of the ocean. As methane ice, and you can just pick it up.
Methane ice aka methane clathrate is not methanol. But yeah close enough. Methane ice is a fossil fuel resource which induces the greenhouse effect. Just like oil and natural gas. Because it is low density and a solid, it isn't cheap enough to mine right now. Maybe with newer technology. The Japanese used to be interested in that since there is a lot of it in the bottom of their area in the Pacific.
 
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