Chinese semiconductor thread II

LanceD23

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Make you wonder why is SMIC using Sicarrier associated DUVi instead of SMEE's DUVi.
Are they about the same since the components are the same.
 
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snake070

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谢谢,this means that the one that said 40-60W is just the earlier iterations of the lithography machine, and surely the lithography machine with the 90W light source have started production now, are there any more updates on RSLaser? Even higher than 90W light source maybe? Thanks in advance

There are products with a power rating higher than 90 watts. They should be 120 watts. Because both ASML and Nikon have products with a power of 120 watts.

In the videos on BILIBILI, Professor Fang Xiaodong from Shenzhen University of Science and Technology disclosed that he was in charge of the first and second episodes, with power levels of 20 watts and 40 watts respectively. The 90-watt part was handled by RSLaser. I have posted pictures of the 20-watt product. You can find them by searching my posts.
More advanced products... Professor Fang hesitated before continuing(欲言又止). Then he said he wasn't sure. You have to understand Chinese to understand it. He obviously knew the progress, but for some reason he couldn't speak. (At the 23rd minute of the video)

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snake070

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Make you wonder why is SMIC using Sicarrier associated DUVi instead of SMEE's DUVi.
Are they about the same since the components are the same.
China currently has three companies developing DUV lithography machines: SMEE, CETC, and 宇量昇. Which one SMIC ultimately chooses is not crucial; what matters is who can be the first to break the American monopoly.
As the old Chinese saying goes, “One general's success comes at the cost of countless lives.”(一将功成万骨枯) Whoever succeeds in breaking the American monopoly will have rendered a great service to the nation, reaping both fame and fortune while securing a place in history.
 

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There are products with a power rating higher than 90 watts. They should be 120 watts. Because both ASML and Nikon have products with a power of 120 watts.

In the videos on BILIBILI, Professor Fang Xiaodong from Shenzhen University of Science and Technology disclosed that he was in charge of the first and second episodes, with power levels of 20 watts and 40 watts respectively. The 90-watt part was handled by RSLaser. I have posted pictures of the 20-watt product. You can find them by searching my posts.
More advanced products... Professor Fang hesitated before continuing(欲言又止). Then he said he wasn't sure. You have to understand Chinese to understand it. He obviously knew the progress, but for some reason he couldn't speak. (At the 23rd minute of the video)

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What's the timeline on the lithography machine with the 120W liht source? Is it in production lines now? What about the other aspects of the machine? Are they on parity or not far behind from ASML's best DUV machine? And i think the one with 40-60W is the SSA800, is the one with the 90W light source the SSA900? The SSA800 and SSA900's localization rate? The 85% for SSA800 is from a few years back right?
 

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China currently has three companies developing DUV lithography machines: SMEE, CETC, and 宇量昇. Which one SMIC ultimately chooses is not crucial; what matters is who can be the first to break the American monopoly.
As the old Chinese saying goes, “One general's success comes at the cost of countless lives.”(一将功成万骨枯) Whoever succeeds in breaking the American monopoly will have rendered a great service to the nation, reaping both fame and fortune while securing a place in history.
i heard that SMEE's DUV business will eventually spin off to YuLiangSheng.
 

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China currently has three companies developing DUV lithography machines: SMEE, CETC, and 宇量昇. Which one SMIC ultimately chooses is not crucial; what matters is who can be the first to break the American monopoly.
As the old Chinese saying goes, “One general's success comes at the cost of countless lives.”(一将功成万骨枯) Whoever succeeds in breaking the American monopoly will have rendered a great service to the nation, reaping both fame and fortune while securing a place in history.
Do you know what each one have, when they started being used for production and how they compare or correspond to which of ASML's and Nikon's DUV machines
 

sunnymaxi

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seems like Chinese government is aggressively pushing Nvidia out of China.

China tells tech giants to stop buying all of Nvidia’s AI chips.

1. CAC summoned tech firms this week to ban RTX Pro 6000D

2. Several cos who earlier put in orders told suppliers to terminate



told you.. 2026 is the year.
 
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snake070

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i heard that SMEE's DUV business will eventually spin off to YuLiangSheng.
I find that highly unlikely, as SMEE is a company under the Shanghai SASAC, while Yuliangsheng is under the Shenzhen SASAC.
If you understand China, you'd know that for the sake of their own performance records, two SASACs would never hand such a prime project over to their rival. Unless the State Council steps in to mediate.
 
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