antiterror13
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with local lithography?
Chinese semiconductor thread II
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with local lithography?
antiterror13
Brigadier
Intel still struggling with 7nm, even Intel has EUV and no limitation to get any technologies and full support from US govt.
China has managed 5nm with DUVi ..... interesting. With all bans and restriction
You could write much better code with Intel Dual Core in 2000s than with current Intel high end
Current, in production facts ... interesting isn't it?
China has managed 5nm with DUVi ..... interesting. With all bans and restriction
You could write much better code with Intel Dual Core in 2000s than with current Intel high end
Current, in production facts ... interesting isn't it?
I think it's important to consider that N+2 itself underwent improvement from 2023 to 2024 (with 9000S to 9020) in terms of fixing some process issues, stability and such. Until we get to a point where N+2 seems like a relatively mature process now.
Not sure if they plan to do further scaling with N+3, but at minimum for 2026, you can expect similar improvement in raising yield and stability of the process and maybe improving transistor performance and maybe improve SRAM scaling. There are things they can still improve over the next year in their lab.
One of the big constraint they faced in 2022-2024 was just lack of equipment/capacity, so they couldn't really dedicate much capacity for R&D of new process (or they would lose actual production capacity). I would imagine with increased capacity (from domestic equipment), this is less of a concern. Although of course, they face new issues from domestic equipment being less reliable.
Over the next 2 years, I think it is more likely they get to like real N5 or even N4 with EUV process vs more intensive multi-patterning. But I do think there is still room for improvement in the N+3 process until then.
Crazy to see South Korea dominating half of all sales , even above giants like Japan, US and China. The Korean success story is really one where people don’t talk about much .