Chinese semiconductor industry

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Hendrik_2000

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Thats interesting. They are possibly the most important company in the chinese semiconductor industry, and yet they havent been sanctioned. Do they only work with chinese suppliers? Even so, if sanctioned, they could be barred from foreign components that might be hard for china to replicate, at least in the short-medium term.

I dont know if this information has been posted here. This article talks about a new machine that ASML will deploy in 2025, capable of making angstrom-sized transistors (what is that?), and that it will take china a generation to build something like that.

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Not really Huawei choose different route and leap frog the Si based integrated circuit instead Huawei choose photonic chip which they are building factory now

Huawei is planning to develop the photonic chip, which is make Russia and America surprise​

 

MortyandRick

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Not really Huawei choose different route and leap frog the Si based integrated circuit instead Huawei choose photonic chip which they are building factory now

Huawei is planning to develop the photonic chip, which is make Russia and America surprise​

I thought photonic chips were a dead end ? According to some on this forum. Was I wrong?
 

GodRektsNoobs

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Thats interesting. They are possibly the most important company in the chinese semiconductor industry, and yet they havent been sanctioned. Do they only work with chinese suppliers? Even so, if sanctioned, they could be barred from foreign components that might be hard for china to replicate, at least in the short-medium term.

I dont know if this information has been posted here. This article talks about a new machine that ASML will deploy in 2025, capable of making angstrom-sized transistors (what is that?), and that it will take china a generation to build something like that.

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"The upcoming EXE:5200 requires precision mirrors one meter in diameter, ground and polished to the point they can position images on the surface of a silicon wafer within 20 picometer. That's a margin of error less than the width of a single helium atom, the smallest element on the periodic table. It could take the Chinese a generation to develop anything similar, the thinking in tech circles goes."

Is this even physically possible? Sounds like somebody is exaggerating massively.
 

wxw456

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Thats interesting. They are possibly the most important company in the chinese semiconductor industry, and yet they havent been sanctioned. Do they only work with chinese suppliers? Even so, if sanctioned, they could be barred from foreign components that might be hard for china to replicate, at least in the short-medium term.
The whole purpose of creating and funding SMEE and other semiconductor equipment manufacturers is to build up a technological and industrial foundation. These companies are by design highly resistant to sanctions because their development is not dependant on foreign inputs. The downside is that it takes more time and money to redevelop everything domestically. The point is that there are no critical foreign inputs to sanction from SMEE. Any listing of SMEE on the entity list would be a purely political move with no/little business impact on SMEE.
 
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