Yeah fab is everything... right now China situation is like having bunch of recipes but no oven....
Chinese semiconductor industry
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China can design chips. The point of emphasis is that any Chinese company that designs chips that are produced by TSMC is vulnerable to be being stopped by the United States. I can extend that to any chips produced outside of China
There is nothing magical about EDA software. it is basically mathematical and geometric algorithms and electrical engineering. The problem is that these EDA companies collaborate entirely with the fabs, to ensure that what you design is as close to reality as possible, that collaboration is the most difficult part. That is what it takes time to achieve.
We cannot dismiss that, brother.
Seems to me that is the order in which this thing is done, how to build up the Chinese IC industry.
Chinese companies paying through the nose to American companies for that IP on that chip. Now Chinese companies have their own designs and do not have to pay American companies anymore.
They just need a fab. Eventually those fabs will be built in China too.
Do the designing of cutting edge chips first.
Suppose they did it the other way around, built the cutting edge fab first. Since they have a fab but has no chip design, not sure they are going to do? Also, building a fab goes into the billions, which designing a chip does not.
If the Americans want to escalate this tech war further, then escalate, but everyone should be prepared for the consequences down the road.
I think China at this stage of the game, has no worries.
That is what China Inc. is saying to TSMC every single day.
Give us our goods we are buying, otherwise we cannot guarantee anything for you in the future, your lot would be totally in American hands.
The Afghan government trusted the Americans. At least they got paid.
China must become FULL STACK to take on the current AlphaWe cannot dismiss that, brother.
Seems to me that is the order in which this thing is done, how to build up the Chinese IC industry.
Chinese companies paying through the nose to American companies for that IP on that chip. Now Chinese companies have their own designs and do not have to pay American companies anymore.
They just need a fab. Eventually those fabs will be built in China too.
Do the designing of cutting edge chips first.
Suppose they did it the other way around, built the cutting edge fab first. Since they have a fab but has no chip design, not sure they are going to do? Also, building a fab goes into the billions, which designing a chip does not.
If the Americans want to escalate this tech war further, then escalate, but everyone should be prepared for the consequences down the road.
I think China at this stage of the game, has no worries.
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similar to KLAtencor surface defect detection and characterization.
Mixed Signal IC tester, equivalent to Advantest
similar to KLAtencor surface defect detection and characterization.
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Mixed Signal IC tester, equivalent to Advantest
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Report is about TSMC, Apple, Intel and Tencent.
Apparently Intel will manufacture the 3nm chips for Apple instead of TSMC.
Intel will also provide system hardware for Tencent's cloud service.
Apparently Intel will manufacture the 3nm chips for Apple instead of TSMC.
Intel will also provide system hardware for Tencent's cloud service.
All that to be able to say "hi" to a girl
Sounds like TSMC has been harvested if the 3nm intel rumor is true.
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