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krautmeister said:
Confirmation of anything from the American State Department has as much legitimacy as used toilet paper. Literally "EVERY" single so-called confirmation of "concentration camps" in Xinjiang via satellite imagery, that was actually fact checked on the ground, turned out to be some variation of a shopping center, hospital, school or apartment building. Don't believe everything you read, especially if it's from the American government, or should we say "regime". They are the greatest bullsh*t artists of all time.

Note the reporting agencies, The Economist and Washington Times. No surprise there.
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I understand the sentiment.

But what would be the purpose of telling the US population and US policymakers that China has a huge nuclear arsenal?

If China isn't building nuclear silos, then the State Department and Pentagon look utterly incompetent and stupid to the American people, when the truth comes out and we see wind turbines.

It also means US policymakers overestimate China's nuclear arsenal, which deters the US from using conventional force. Neutral countries in Asia can also see how the USA is unreliable, because the US will not go to war against China because of the risk of nuclear armageddon.

Furthermore, China now has a free pass to actually build 350 nuclear silos (which could cause nuclear armageddon against the US) because everyone in the US thinks China has already built them. That is not in the interests of the USA.
 
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The economist and Washington time are the originator of the news. The silos was found by researcher at FAS and Matt Korda from James Martin center for Non proliferation study The third silo was found by another researcher from US air force research institute Roderick Lee. So they are not part of US national spy agencies but private research institute. The MSM picked up the news. It could be they are directed by US national agencies to look into certain area, That why it conceal US spying activities. By revealing the find in MSM they pressure China to come clean on the purported silo. But I never see civilian construction using inflatable dome
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In recent weeks, analysts have discovered over 200 new intercontinental ballistic missile silos in the deserts of western China. Surprisingly, those behind the breakthrough weren’t intelligence professionals from the CIA or National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. Instead, they were researchers from the
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methods to reveal secrets that were previously the preserve of government intelligence agencies.

The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) is currently building a new missile silo site, according to the US Air Force’s
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Research director Roderick Lee mentioned in his report that the PLA “likely began construction” of a potential intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) silo site in Hanggin Banner, Ordos City, Inner Mongolia.
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I should have included so-called American "civilian" researchers among the BS artists along with the US State Department. I have zero trust and zero respect for all China related news coming out of American orifices and their closest pet dogs like India and the other 5 eyes. Experience has taught us they are either completely BS, partially BS or at best, just biased. Tell me if I am wrong? So-called proof of missile silos from satellite images is about as convincing as a concentration camp that eventually turned out to be a housing complex or shopping mall. Yes, that is exactly what some formerly claimed concentration camps were when regular Youtube bloggers went to the satellite coordinates. Latest news is, at least 1 of those major missile silo sites is the construction site of a large wind farm. The problem with these so-called civilian researchers is, they are searching for malevolent intent. In other words, they are looking for things like missile silos, concentration camps, slave labor, ghost cities, extreme pollution, mass protests, collapsing dams, sand storms, flash flooding, etc, etc. In other words, they are looking for trouble, looking for problems, looking for bad news. When your mind is full of paranoia, it creates a self perpetuating psychosis revolving around demonizing your target because your target is evil, is a bad guy. China is that bad guy in the eyes and minds of most Americans and their like minded allies. They've been brainwashed for generations and their society is built around a culture of control and good guy bad guy militarism. I'm not completely dismissing everything their population and MSM say. However, I take EVERYTHING they say with a giant grain of salt the size of a bulldozer because I know in 98% of cases, they have bad intentions and it's less about the truth and more about catching China in some evil act, real or not.

Fyi, if I were the China leadership, why would I build a concentration of missile silos densely packed together in an easily targeted flat desert area instead of spread out in tunnels within mountainous ravines? Better yet, why not have those ICBMs mounted on the already existing road mobile platforms where targeting would be exponentially more difficult? The idea of those fixed and concentrated missile silos on a flat desert plain doesn't even make sense. It's actually stupid if you consider what I just said as the alternatives. Is any of this even considered by them? Of course not, because they are anxious to find their smoking gun, in this case proof of some nuclear missile buildup. I'm not saying that isn't at least secretly happening, but the so-called evidence they provide is really lame.
 
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AndrewS said:
But what would be the purpose of telling the US population and US policymakers that China has a huge nuclear arsenal?

If China isn't building nuclear silos, then the State Department and Pentagon look utterly incompetent and stupid to the American people, when the truth comes out and we see wind turbines.
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That is exactly what they are, utterly incompetent and stupid. That's what cult like ideology does to the mind. Neoliberalism has brainwashed them into all sorts of dumb decisions, the latest of which is the embarrassing Afghanistan fiasco.


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It also means US policymakers overestimate China's nuclear arsenal, which deters the US from using conventional force. Neutral countries in Asia can also see how the USA is unreliable, because the US will not go to war against China because of the risk of nuclear armageddon.

Furthermore, China now has a free pass to actually build 350 nuclear silos (which could cause nuclear armageddon against the US) because everyone in the US thinks China has already built them. That is not in the interests of the USA.
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Imo, China should build up their ICBM inventory to at least 500+ warheads, spread between nuclear subs and road mobile TELs. No matter how insane a first strike would be, I have no doubt in my mind that American government strategists would serious consider it against China because of their belief that China only has a few dozen warheads capable of hitting the US mainland. The fact that the US seriously considered 1st strikes against China in the past on several occasions says it all.
 
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The Anglos have to be taught an important lesson; not only should Huawei return back in full force, but if other foreign smartphones refuse to use Chinese chipsets, then shut them out of the Chinese market, indict their executives and destroy their companies.
the anglos started this tech war, let them reap the whirlwind.
Vae Victus.
 
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The national rejuvenation is not even halfway. There exists no reason for China to engage in the "reunify" exercise. Most other countries are still abiding by the One China Policy, including the US.

There might be some taunts and escalations by US but nothing short of a full fledged military base with formal recognition by US and its allies will be inflammatory enough for China. Also, Taiwan is indefensible against even a conventional power, let alone a nuclear power.

The best way to defeat Taiwan would be to destroy its electronics industry. That's why I support the US move to build fabs in Arizona as it will eat into the profits of TSMC. I just hope South Koreans do their part too.
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Again typical "no need", "no reason to", "don't play with fire", "time is on our side, just wait", "avoid conflicts at all cost", "winning without fight is best", "don't do, just leave it" complacent, risk-averse attitude. There exists no reason for China NOT to engage in the "reunify" excercise. You can always create whatever reason, you just refuse to.
The US enters Taiwan with military planes. Your statement is wrong.

No, you do not defeat anyone with destroying industry. Industry is just industry, nothing more. Just because you destroyed their industry doesn't mean they are defeated. Taiwan doesn't need electronics industry to attack China or to be used as a military base for the US. So you're only wishfully waiting for the US to abandon Taiwan. That's pathetic.
 
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