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Xizor

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Again typical "no need", "no reason to", "don't play with fire", "time is on our side, just wait", "avoid conflicts at all cost", "winning without fight is best", "don't do, just leave it" complacent, risk-averse attitude. There exists no reason for China NOT to engage in the "reunify" excercise. You can always create whatever reason, you just refuse to.
The US enters Taiwan with military planes. Your statement is wrong.

No, you do not defeat anyone with destroying industry. Industry is just industry, nothing more. Just because you destroyed their industry doesn't mean they are defeated. Taiwan doesn't need electronics industry to attack China or to be used as a military base for the US. So you're only wishfully waiting for the US to abandon Taiwan. That's pathetic.
Reunify and be left with a few buildings with TSMC English letters affixed. What more, China won't be able to sustain its electronic industry - especially its domestic computing needs. Remember that China is particularly weak in core computing software and hardware capability. Your ideas will result in the Chinese being forced to look at inferior Chinese processors on decade old technology with an inferior whatever OS and pirated softwares.

Imagine being forced to use an HTC M8/ IPhone 6/ Windows 7/Intel 6th gen level product with Android/ linux fork. This would be the most premium offering China could produce independently and that's what China would be forced to adopt after the invasion ( even that is a best case scenario). If China achieves independence and competitiveness in core systems and technology, it would not be the case.

I'm not speaking about "winning without fighting". I'm speaking about "fighting the right fights" and "not taking a knife to a Gunfight" and " understanding one's weaknesses as well as the enemy's " .


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bettydice

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Reunify and be left with a few buildings with TSMC English letters affixed. What more, China won't be able to sustain its electronic industry - especially its domestic computing needs. Remember that China is particularly weak in core computing software and hardware capability. Your ideas will result in the Chinese being forced to look at inferior Chinese processors on decade old technology with an inferior whatever OS and pirated softwares.

Imagine being forced to use an HTC M8/ IPhone 6/ Windows 7/Intel 6th gen level product with Android/ linux fork. This would be the most premium offering China could produce independently and that's what China would be forced to adopt after the invasion ( even that is a best case scenario). If China achieves independence and competitiveness in core systems and technology, it would not be the case.

I'm not speaking about "winning without fighting". I'm speaking about "fighting the right fights" and "not taking a knife to a Gunfight" and " understanding one's weaknesses as well as the enemy's " .


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And you want the US to move fabs to the US territory and make TSMC obsolete? How is it different from your "be left with a few buildings with TSMC English letters affixed" scenario? At least for now, your scenario doesn't only affect China, but the whole world depends on TSMC.
 

Xizor

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And you want the US to move fabs to the US territory and make TSMC obsolete? How is it different from your "be left with a few buildings with TSMC English letters affixed" scenario? At least for now, your scenario doesn't only affect China, but the whole world depends on TSMC.
US moving fabs to make TSMC redundant / less profitable has no effect on Chinese technological competency and innovation.

The whole world isn't at the mercy of TSMC. Intel and Samsung along with Sony and other companies can erase the dent left by TSMC. What TSMC offers is capacity. It can be replicated in US or SK or Japan provided there is political will.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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i, if I were the China leadership, why would I build a concentration of missile silos densely packed together in an easily targeted flat desert area instead of spread out in tunnels within mountainous ravines? Better yet, why not have those ICBMs mounted on the already existing road mobile platforms where targeting would be exponentially more difficult? The idea of those fixed and concentrated missile silos on a flat desert plain doesn't even make sense. It's actually stupid if you consider what I just said as the alternatives. Is any of this even considered by them? Of course not, because they are anxious to find their smoking gun, in this case proof of some nuclear missile buildup. I'm not saying that isn't at least secretly happening, but the so-called evidence they provide is really lame.
Wrong thread but I need to address this. Silos aren't meant to be invincible against attack. Mountain silos are still targetable but cost far more to maintain.

3 km spacing is sufficient spacing.

The real value of silo is their EMP resistance, resistance to conventional attack and capability to launch on warning no matter what, due to being able to hardwire fiber optics to them and being too armored for conventional cruise missiles to destroy.

TELs are not vulnerable to first strike but are vulnerable to conventional munitions and EMP since they need RF comms.
 

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If Baidu Kunlun 2 is really 3x faster than the Kunlun 1, then it is a phenomenal achievement for the Chinese semiconductor industry. With such a performance it will outperform the A-100 in some AI applications. Also, a 200% performance increase in a timespan of 3 years is rare for the modern semi industry.
 

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If Baidu Kunlun 2 is really 3x faster than the Kunlun 1, then it is a phenomenal achievement for the Chinese semiconductor industry. With such a performance it will outperform the A-100 in some AI applications. Also, a 200% performance increase in a timespan of 3 years is rare for the modern semi industry.
China push toward "real economy" and Industry over service might give Baidu the second chance. Really bad that they couldn't become the top dog in Chinese tech Co.
 
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