@voyager1 and why didn't they do that? bro from my understanding the gov't will hold and development strategic industry and let the other sector of the economy run free, Its Socialism with Chinese characteristic. By letting the Chinese private and some state enterprises to compete with foreigners it will hone their skills and productivity. Not only that they will set the standard and with economic of scale the foreign company will comply and that is a victory itself.
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China market is for Chinese companies. Let's them compete with each other in international markets. So far its fair and square if we take HSR for example. CRRC isn't too dominant outside of China.@mderfox then game on bro, I don't want to sound cocky but China today is different from 10 years ago, and they are focusing on new tech and if they restrict its their lost cause China is their main market. Bro necessity and scarcity drives innovation, while competition breeds efficiency. China experiences both so let see who come out the winner in the end and I'm placing my bet on China even though I'm not a betting man...LOL
What is CAS?CAS is ok. They "just" need more funding, better facilities and a better research environment. In 5 years it should be far stronger than today.
China is huge ship and it is taking time to change course. However when it does change it will carry temendous momentum behind it
Chinese government isn't the type that like to play revenge game.Come on man, lets not play games. We both know that if China Gov wants this to happen it Will happen.
They can just pass a law that on industries where China is sanctioned, it can limit foreign IP to enter the Chinese market on these sanctioned industries. Then they can say "We respect our WTO commitments, and this is a defencive measure against sanctions " yada, yada
There are plenty of valid excuses to pass this law to ban foreign IP if the industry is sanctioned by these countries.
@Kazuo Ken but bro look at CRRC now compare 10 years ago, the growth and development is exponential, now Indonesia will have one, Thailand and Malaysia too will be using CRRC train and coaches and were talking HSR, while the standard diesel and freight trains are selling well in all continents including Australia, The foreign makers can't compete with the latest victim being Japan, cause they price themselves out of the market.China market is for Chinese companies. Let's them compete with each other in international markets. So far its fair and square if we take HSR for example. CRRC isn't too dominant outside of China.
You want proof. There are still many Chinese factories that bought foreign branded machine tools. Be it from Germany or Japan or Taiwan or US. They also bought many domestic machines. Do you think Chinese government have forgot the machine tools ban that they have experienced before?
Chinese gov is also not the type to accept sanctions and when they finally develop domestic IP, let foreign IP to crush the domestic companies.Chinese government isn't the type that like to play revenge game.
Maybe they will give them 2-3 years and then remove the tariffs.
Btw CAS is the Chinese Academy of Sciences and its job is researching
@Kazuo Ken China Academy of Science, its like DARPA of the US.What is CAS?
Indonesia also gave one of the line to Japan. India have chosen Japan hsr system. Although Japan is slow in securing international contracts. Malaysia doesn't have hsr. US still questionable. ECRL in Malaysia is just a semi high speed train. ETS is using Chinese train.@Kazuo Ken but bro look at CRRC now compare 10 years ago, the growth and development is exponential, now Indonesia will have one, Thailand and Malaysia too will be using CRRC train and coaches and were talking HSR, while the standard diesel and freight trains are selling well in all continents including Australia, The foreign makers can't compete with the latest victim being Japan, cause they price themselves out of the market.
If US have leverage they will after CAS. Many inside CAS is brilliant researcher in China. Its US survival at stake they not gonna be soft.Its not that easy. The CAS has connections all over the world and makes it extremely difficult for a full sanction. Maybe some small sanctions are possible.
And lets not forget the Chinese bazooka. Digital Yuan.
If the Americans try to do something then China would be justified to start using Digital Yuan and steamrolling any resistance to it.
Before CAS is more towards working with western counterpart in many field. But after tech war they already making statement towards self sufficient.
Who know US feeling threatened by CAS. They will passed some ridiculous law to sanctions or limit ability CAS to operate. Don't forget, china isn't allowed to join ISS. Many world project like Hadron collider, nuclear fusion and etc will banned CAS to involved. Of course there's is mirror project inside China. On Science field interaction sometimes bring spark.
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