Chinese semiconductor industry
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US executive like these are exactly like the execs mentioned in this video.
They complain about Chinese trade practices but are too cowardly to come out and expose them because they are scare of losing the China market.
You probably mean high-k. There are plenty of producers of the necessary chemicals outside the US, like Air Liquide (France), Samsung (South Korea), Adeka Corporation (Japan), and even Nanomate Technology (Taiwan). The US could threaten all of them, but is unlikely to succeed. Not much high-k is needed for semiconductors; this should be obvious when you realize that Atomic Layer Deposition (ALD) is used to apply the high-k layers. So it wouldn't take much of a shipload to satisfy China's needs for a long time, long enough for a mainland company to start producing the precursors.
I won't waste everyone's time on your blabbering about copper and 90 nm.
says that SMEE will be producing 28 nm lithography equipment this near or next year. The 3-5 year delay would only happen if SMIC insisted on making its own lithography equipment, rather than buying it from SMEE. Do you actually understand what you write?
Actually, yes. Lots of people will buy a cheaper PC if its performance is good enough. Just as far more people buy Volkswagens than Lamborghinis. An 8-core CPU is probably excessively expensive for most people, but a cheap 2-core or 4-core PC should sell extremely well throughout the world. So if the US stupidly prevents Intel from supplying China, Zhaoxin will grab an enormous chunk of Intel's market. Thus Intel (and therefore the US) will lose.
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People have run benchmarks on the Zhaoxin CPUs and the performance isn't that great.
Mind you they aren't even comparing it to the latest or highest end Intel and AMD CPUs on those benchmarks.
I suppose it should be good enough for government office PCs but don't expect great performance.
Mind you they aren't even comparing it to the latest or highest end Intel and AMD CPUs on those benchmarks.
I suppose it should be good enough for government office PCs but don't expect great performance.
They need to abandon X86 and go full Arm like Apple. X86 is being emulated fine on M1 chip.
A very generalized viewpointed panel. They don't know Chinese internal semiconductor industry.
What they mentioned is nothing more than in the normal news publications.
They mentioned not a specific Chinese equipment company and product.
Their knowledge is not very good and helpful.
They only mention SMIC. Almost everyone knows that.
Alll and all, they mostly talk about policies and general observation.
As long as Zhaoxin-based PCs are competitive, they should sell.
Of course, if the US implemented a total chip embargo, Zhaoxin would own the Chinese PC market -- and probably most of the world's. As the company prospered, it would have the funds and the time to make its CPU the world's best. Intel (and the US) would lose.
At this point, it is more like usable for education, office work, and light gaming. You can likely get a lot better Intel based computer for the same price. The single core performance is almost 10 years old macbook pro. The combine multicore performance puts it about 5 years old macbook pro and thats using 8 core rather than 4 cores. It will prob need at least a 50% boost in single core to be competitive but really 100% boost to be modern.
A Chinese guy reviews the lower end of the Zhaoxin. It sells for about 300usd, I would prob place it more in the 150-250$ range of netbook/chromebook computers you will find at walmart.
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