Why do you assume Huawei, Harbin Institute of Technology, Changchun Institute of Optics and Mechanics, Chinese Academy of Sciences can't develop DUV concurrently with SMEE?
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Well, SMEE hadn't announced their SA800 yet. So the way I see it, the upcoming announcement could be about that. And the implication is that the SA800 is already producing the Kirin 9000s. It only really said there's more to come after the 9000s and to get ready for surprises.
The SA800 may not surprise any of us, because we'll we've been following this like flies on honey. But I think most of the world would be shocked by a 28nm DUVi.
These three institutes actively working on different EUV component for years and in fact Harbin Institute of Technology won the Technology award as well for developing critical component of Lithography machine..
Changchun Institute of Optics and Mechanics is all set to deliver first working prototype of EUV next year if recent rumors are true ..
i can say only one thing .. interesting time ahead. we have many more surprises coming. as my big brother @olalavn has already told.
Don't know how that picture is made. Here is footprints of the three from
Removing the low horizon region, the coverage would be something like the red circled area.
Is it a question? Tiantong is GSO (2.4 degree inclination) almost like GEO.
GSO constallation like this has constant and very wide coverage. Of course high latitude region suffers worse SN ratio due to the lower horizon where the sat locates relative to the handset. But longitude wise, just need to put GSO sats over Africa and Central America, then you get good coverage.
One thing worth to mention (for everyone) is that Huawei is NOT the first to have sat com in a mobile phone, ZTE has T900 many years ago. It is a 4G and Tiantong-1 combo phone for rescure mission, so it is a bit bulky.
Huawei's achievement is to eliminate that external antenna in a consumer package.
Wait and see, Huawei conference is around the corner maybe they will announce some things.
I think most of us expects that Kirin chips have been built by SMIC and ASML DUVi line. I think it's almost unbelievable that if Huawei managed to built DUVi and it's already validated and produce chips for like quite some time, because if mate 60 series is being sold now, the chips must have been produced already.
I think most of us expects that Kirin chips have been built by SMIC and ASML DUVi line. I think it's almost unbelievable that if Huawei managed to built DUVi and it's already validated and produce chips for like quite some time, because if mate 60 series is being sold now, the chips must have been produced already.
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Not so much the DUV but the supposed capabilities. That person is suggesting future chips will be more advance than the Kirin 9000S and it will be manufactured on domestic lithography. Kirin 9000S is believed to be N+2 or 7nm equivalent from SMIC, which seems to be saying the domestic version has similar capabilities.
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Right, that's what I think it means, that the domestic DUV is able to do the N+2, not that Huawei made their own DUVi. The quote is just saying that the Huawei line is completely domestic.
This would put SMEE's SSA800 at the same level as the ASML NXT2000i. Which, while yes we predicted that here, would be a shock to most of the world as they are all expecting it only to be at NXT1980i.
As well as if this is true, the NXT2000i could theoretically do 5nm, which is probably why they're saying the Kirin 9000s is already getting ready to be replaced.
Again, that's what I think the quote is saying, and it largely matches what we here already know. But it would be a huge surprise for others.
*Edit: I think we all have to remind ourselves that we probably know more than pretty much all others. So while the SA800 being used in production at NXT2000i levels is literally what we expect to happen, it's probably huge shocking news everywhere else.
This is insanely speculative of my part but if Huawei and SMIC are patterning finfet transistors using EUV Free Electron Lasers or SSMB that would the bombshell of the century, it will flip the entire semiconductor industry.
They can be part of the project. However, the entire note does read a little fictitious. You can feel optimistic about Huawei and China's semiconductor industry without believing in all these rumors. Let's focus on what we can determine.
I am not sure why people are wasting time on that comment when there is a video about Kirin 9000s result that is seriously interesting
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