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Thank you @pbd456 , @measuredingabens bro regarding your inquiry and our discussion hope this help. 
You may connect the dots and come to your conclusion.
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A netizen named "erichain" on Weibo turned out to be the focus of Huawei executive Yu Chengdong. Netizens familiar with the situation claimed that he was an internal employee of Huawei. Huawei has more than 200,000 employees. It can be seen that an employee can get the attention of Huawei executives. This person is not simple, and there is a high probability that he is Huawei's "technical master".
At the beginning of 2021, there were gossip that Huawei had dispatched elite troops to help domestic scientific research units accelerate their research and development progress, but it was a pity that it was not confirmed by any official organization.
On May 16, 2021, "erichain" posted a Weibo post "try to do a little work", and the location of the post was shown at the Changchun Institute of Optics and Mechanics, Chinese Academy of Sciences. This place is amazing! It is the research and development base of my country's LPP-EUV light source. Some netizens speculated that in May 2021, the appearance of "erichain" in this place is likely to help this scientific research unit accelerate the development of EUV light sources.
In the first half of this year, the official website of the Changchun Institute of Optics and Mechanics published a report, introducing the good news that Academician Bai Chunli, the president of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, visited the Changchun Institute of Optics and Mechanics. According to the past practice of my country's official institutions, this means that my country has made a major technological breakthrough in LPP-EUV light source technology! Is there any help from Huawei's "technical giant"? you guess?
The EUV light source is known as the "core of the core" in the EUV front-end exposure equipment, and its successful development means that the EUV complete machine is not far away!
On July 2, "erichain" posted another Weibo saying, "Thanks to all those who have contributed to the country, to all those who have helped Huawei, and to the vast number of consumers. This year, there are some achievements in some fields, dedicated to all who have the same heart. Glory to you!"
From this sentence, we can see that "erichain" was very excited at that time, and the things that made him so excited must not be trivial!
It can be seen that Huawei must have made a major technological breakthrough, and it is a major technology that can affect the development of the country! We don't know exactly what it is! Could it be that after the integration of EUV front-end exposure equipment, the trial operation was successful?
According to the official information, the EUV principle prototype independently developed by my country passed the acceptance test in 2017! On April 13, the Changchun Institute of Optics and Mechanics disclosed the news that Academician Bai Chunli, President of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, investigated the EUV light source, indicating that the EUV engineering prototype or the light source of the prototype machine has also been completed! The "erichain" message was sent on July 2, most likely because the trial operation of the EUV machine was successful! As early as 2021, some netizens revealed that domestic EUV is expected to be produced in 2023! To make this great god so excited and make such remarks can only be a major achievement for the whole machine, not a single technological breakthrough! Comprehensive judgment, the biggest possibility is that the EUV test run was successful!
You may connect the dots and come to your conclusion.
Regarding the semi-official news from Huawei insiders, could it be that the trial operation of the EUV machine was successful?
71 people liked this article
A netizen named "erichain" on Weibo turned out to be the focus of Huawei executive Yu Chengdong. Netizens familiar with the situation claimed that he was an internal employee of Huawei. Huawei has more than 200,000 employees. It can be seen that an employee can get the attention of Huawei executives. This person is not simple, and there is a high probability that he is Huawei's "technical master".
At the beginning of 2021, there were gossip that Huawei had dispatched elite troops to help domestic scientific research units accelerate their research and development progress, but it was a pity that it was not confirmed by any official organization.
On May 16, 2021, "erichain" posted a Weibo post "try to do a little work", and the location of the post was shown at the Changchun Institute of Optics and Mechanics, Chinese Academy of Sciences. This place is amazing! It is the research and development base of my country's LPP-EUV light source. Some netizens speculated that in May 2021, the appearance of "erichain" in this place is likely to help this scientific research unit accelerate the development of EUV light sources.
In the first half of this year, the official website of the Changchun Institute of Optics and Mechanics published a report, introducing the good news that Academician Bai Chunli, the president of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, visited the Changchun Institute of Optics and Mechanics. According to the past practice of my country's official institutions, this means that my country has made a major technological breakthrough in LPP-EUV light source technology! Is there any help from Huawei's "technical giant"? you guess?
The EUV light source is known as the "core of the core" in the EUV front-end exposure equipment, and its successful development means that the EUV complete machine is not far away!
On July 2, "erichain" posted another Weibo saying, "Thanks to all those who have contributed to the country, to all those who have helped Huawei, and to the vast number of consumers. This year, there are some achievements in some fields, dedicated to all who have the same heart. Glory to you!"
From this sentence, we can see that "erichain" was very excited at that time, and the things that made him so excited must not be trivial!
It can be seen that Huawei must have made a major technological breakthrough, and it is a major technology that can affect the development of the country! We don't know exactly what it is! Could it be that after the integration of EUV front-end exposure equipment, the trial operation was successful?
According to the official information, the EUV principle prototype independently developed by my country passed the acceptance test in 2017! On April 13, the Changchun Institute of Optics and Mechanics disclosed the news that Academician Bai Chunli, President of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, investigated the EUV light source, indicating that the EUV engineering prototype or the light source of the prototype machine has also been completed! The "erichain" message was sent on July 2, most likely because the trial operation of the EUV machine was successful! As early as 2021, some netizens revealed that domestic EUV is expected to be produced in 2023! To make this great god so excited and make such remarks can only be a major achievement for the whole machine, not a single technological breakthrough! Comprehensive judgment, the biggest possibility is that the EUV test run was successful!
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Based on the progress of all the patents (especially light source), i'm under the impression that both SIOM & CIOMP are working on their own EUV prototypes and CAS is pretty involved in all of this. Timeline wise, if they can get an alpha prototype assembled this year, it would be quite the miracle. At this point, I see EUV project about 3 years behind SSA800 for entering high volume production, which would shock pretty much everyone. I don't know how everyone else looks at it.
At the same time, we're also seeing increasing commercialisation of EUV components, if @tokenanalyst's posts are any indication. I also recall seeing a post by @olalavn in relation to a 400w LPP light souce being tested in Guangdong earlier this year. Things seem fairly up in the air at this point.
Actually, I think it's pretty obvious by this point that at least 2 light sources are been tested (SIOM & CIOMP ones). So that's why assembling EUV prototype is very likely to be happening. But you know getting prototype and doing integration testing and such takes time. So let's wait and see.
I expect the first Chinese EUV machine to not be that far behind the current ASML EUV machine
i have detailed discussion with my brother @olalavn ..Sir @olalavn your prediction had come true.
EUV progress and development cycle will be shorter than DUV.. just like CJ-2000 progress is faster than all previous engines despite more superior product.
first engineering prototype will be be assembled in 2024. and both SIOM & CIOMP institutes will assemble their own prototypes. China planning to commercialize EUV as soon as possible if everything goes well.
not fair tales. a lengthy period of struggle behind this success ..
we have example.
CJ-2000.. 78,000 lbf thrust engine progress and development is way faster than CJ-1000/WS-15 and other engines. reason behind this, industrialization and well established ecosystem.
EUV progress and development cycle will be shorter than DUV..
Sir If I may, of the 3 critical components for an EUVL, They had mastered 2, the lens, mirror and optics and the Dual Bench. The one lacking is the power source. From previous post of our esteem members the initial EUVL prototype is powered by DPP at 150kw, surely lacking the extra power to make it commercially viable. I think Huawei after buying RS laser had taken the task to accomplished it as shown by its patent. It's only the missing link and with @olalavn post of a 40w LPP (same power with ASML HI NA EUVL) they had done it.
And I know sir that I should check my enthusiasm, BUT if they're able to produce a prototype and make it work as stated by @pbd456 , then they're able to match ASML latest EUVL right off the bat.
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Bro I'm jealous please tell @olalavn to pm me to join your discussion.
What I know is that Liu He when he was appointed by Xi had done an excellent job distributing the necessary resources and manpower ,here Huawei participation is crucial as the semiconductor vanguard they know where the weak links is, as the whole nation approached is the only way to shattered the American tech hegemony.- Status