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Biden to Stunt Growth in China for Chipmakers Getting US Funds​

  • Commerce unveils new curbs on firms that take federal money
  • Intel, Samsung and TSMC may lose more growth due to guardrails

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Once they got the data and understood the industry at a granular level, it became very easy for them to tailor the restrictions in ways they think will hurt China the most.

 

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The official announcement from US Departnwbtcif Commerce:

Commerce Department Outlines Proposed National Security Guardrails for CHIPS for America Incentives Program​

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They are demanding too much.
TSMC will invest of their own money like 50 billion in the Arizona Fab, a fab that maybe will be not as profitable as their Taiwanese fabs, in exchange will receive 2 billion from the Chips act, there could the case the US goverment demand on IP and they will be locked to invest in fast growing market like China for 10 years. The same goes for Samsung and other Asian players.
I personally fail to see the benefits.
 

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They are demanding too much.
TSMC will invest of their own money like 50 billion in the Arizona Fab, a fab that maybe will be not as profitable as their Taiwanese fabs, in exchange will receive 2 billion from the Chips act, there could the case the US goverment demand on IP and they will be locked to invest in fast growing market like China for 10 years. The same goes for Samsung and other Asian players.
I personally fail to see the benefits.
Indeed. If I’m tsmc or Samsung I’d rather not take the restriction-ladened subsidy from Uncle Sam. The small amount of subsidized money is not worth all the strings attached.
 

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They are demanding too much.
TSMC will invest of their own money like 50 billion in the Arizona Fab, a fab that maybe will be not as profitable as their Taiwanese fabs, in exchange will receive 2 billion from the Chips act, there could the case the US goverment demand on IP and they will be locked to invest in fast growing market like China for 10 years. The same goes for Samsung and other Asian players.
I personally fail to see the benefits.
Morris Chang already confirmed that the Arizona fab will be 50% more costly to operate. I am guessing that is a politically correct understatement, and we are looking more at 100% - 150% more costly to operate. That's not to mention the construction delays.

Indeed. If I’m tsmc or Samsung I’d rather not take the restriction-ladened subsidy from Uncle Sam. The small amount of subsidized money is not worth all the strings attached.
It's a poison pill and they likely are not being given a choice as to whether to take the money or not.
 
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