What is the point of a new ban. It isn't like the US would ever allow its telecom companies from purchasing equipment from Huawei and ZTE to begin with. US should focus upon taking out old Huawei and ZTE equipment from its telecom companies. It is already costing 5 billions to rip and replace Huawei and ZTE gear and it doesn't look like it is anywhere near completed.
Are you asking from a position of prior experience?Don't lie, were you abused as a child?
this song for U.S now: lonely... I'm Mr lonely
Unfortunately, I guess for AMAT and friends despite all of the operational dispersion they did with having the majority of their manufacturing done overseas (e.g. LAM Malaysia) wasn't enough in this case. I would wager a guess that AMAT and friends are probably held back by the IP behind their products which is probably heavily US origin or with heavy US contribution so the noose was just too tight for them, because moving patents offshore is challenging. Even if they move the IP to an offshore holding company, it doesn't change the contribution source, although it may save them some taxes lol. Interestingly enough, ASML can still ship DUVi scanners but just can't have US entities participate in any design, production or servicing. US patents typically only last between 15 (design) to 20 years (utilization) , so depending on when ASML filed those patents for the original DUVi (usually in early development, well before they started implementing it) its possible those patents expired and therefore, ASML could argue that there is no US specific IP behind their DUVi since the original product is now off-patent and the changes they have made to the newer models are based off non-US patents so legally speaking they have no US content in it assuming all parts, labor, servicing, etc are also non-US.Woe to be an American Corporation...lol They will get an exemption cause for Washington DC issuing permits is another layer for money making....lol And the gall of the Collective West to accuse others of systematic institutional corruption.
Applied Materials could lose more than $1 billion in sales from China ban over six months
Last Updated: Oct. 13, 2022 at 7:55 a.m. ETFirst Published: Oct. 12, 2022 at 4:43 p.m. ET
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Chip-equipment manufacturer says that up to $550 million in sales at risk quarterly from restrictions U.S. is putting into place for exports of high-performance semiconductors to China
Applied Materials Inc. makes equipment to manufacture semiconductors.
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Applied Materials Inc. disclosed Wednesday that a widened ban on sales of certain tech to China will likely cost the chip-equipment manufacturer up to $1.1 billion in sales over six months.
Applied Materials executives expect a loss of $250 million to $550 million in sales in its fiscal fourth quarter because of Applied Materials said the ban could hurt first-quarter sales by roughly the same amount.
Shares declined 1.5% in after-hours trading following the announcement, after a 0.4% decline in the regular session to close at $76.01.
As a result, Applied Material executives revised their financial forecast for the fiscal fourth quarter. They now expect fiscal fourth-quarter earnings of $1.54 to $1.78 a share, compares to the prior forecast of $1.82 to $2.18 a share. The forecast includes a 23-cents-a-share charge for resulting inventory and remanufacturing costs.
The company also expects fourth-quarter revenue of $6.15 billion to $6.65 billion, down from its prior forecast of $6.25 billion to $7.05 billion.
Analysts surveyed by FactSet had estimated earnings of $2.01 a share on revenue of $6.67 billion for the fiscal fourth quarter. Analysts were expecting first-quarter revenue of $6.79 billion on average, according to FactSet.
Applied Materials shares have declined 51.7% so far this year, as . The S&P 500 index has declined 24.7% in that period, while the PHLX Semiconductor Index has dropped 44.3%.
Both Nio and Xpeng use NVidia's DRIVE/ORIN/THOR.Either Nio or Xpeng, they're the type to do this kind of thing.
Btw, BYD also use NVidia DRIVE/ORIN/THOR along with Li Auto and SAIC Motor.Case in point would be BYD and Xpeng/Nio. If the latter are up a creek because they chose American suppliers, let them go bankrupt and BYD can buy them out if they have anything worthwhile.
Well bro even though EU is part of the Brat Pack there is some sense of rationale thinker among the political establishment of each member country. The Dutch for one treasure ASML even though they hate their farmers...lol and I'm seeing a golden opportunity for them to take over from the Americans IF they maintain their entrepreneur spirit. ASML DUVi market are in China there is a huge demand as their EUVL sales will be affected as major FAB makers may lessen their CAPEX. Maybe setting a Chinese subsidiary or JV is a way for them to seizes those opportunity.Unfortunately, I guess for AMAT and friends despite all of the operational dispersion they did with having the majority of their manufacturing done overseas (e.g. LAM Malaysia) wasn't enough in this case. I would wager a guess that AMAT and friends are probably held back by the IP behind their products which is probably heavily US origin or with heavy US contribution so the noose was just too tight for them, because moving patents offshore is challenging. Even if they move the IP to an offshore holding company, it doesn't change the contribution source, although it may save them some taxes lol. Interestingly enough, ASML can still ship DUVi scanners but just can't have US entities participate in any design, production or servicing. US patents typically only last between 15 (design) to 20 years (utilization) , so depending on when ASML filed those patents for the original DUVi (usually in early development, well before they started implementing it) its possible those patents expired and therefore, ASML could argue that there is no US specific IP behind their DUVi since the original product is now off-patent and the changes they have made to the newer models are based off non-US patents so legally speaking they have no US content in it assuming all parts, labor, servicing, etc are also non-US.