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ansy1968

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Imagine going to China and eating Panda Express though. Like going to Italy and eating Pizza Hut.
Bro too much MSG, need a Coke, a Soda or a Pepsi to wash it down. It's cheap and fill up your hunger BUT man it's bad for one's health. :)
 

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Keep in mind that SMIC has been telling people for a while that the SMSC fab is mass producing 14 nm chips. In fact, Phytium's D2000 chips are produced with SMIC's 14 nm process. They have also said that fab's production is fully booked.

Phytium's D2000 is 2 years old now.

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So SMIC has been producing 14nm since 2 years already...and only today it has been officially confirmed.

I was not able to find info on when the famous 7nm MinerVa Bitcoin Miner, analyzed by TechInsights, started production.

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Anyhow it seems that SMIC is far more ahead of what they publicy announce. Maybe they are already in limited production also with the 7nm and nobody knows it until someone does not find another 7nm chip in the open market.

I also think is a bit suspect that all these advanced DUV immersion machines that landed in China in the last couple of years are dedicated to 28nm or above. From official statements it seems new SMIC fabs are all 14-28nm and above....I have some doubts on it....
 

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Phytium's D2000 is 2 years old now.

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So SMIC has been producing 14nm since 2 years already...and only today it has been officially confirmed.

I was not able to find info on when the famous 7nm MinerVa Bitcoin Miner, analyzed by TechInsights, started production.

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Anyhow it seems that SMIC is far more ahead of what they publicy announce. Maybe they are already in limited production also with the 7nm and nobody knows it until someone does not find another 7nm chip in the open market.

I also think is a bit suspect that all these advanced DUV immersion machines that landed in China in the last couple of years are dedicated to 28nm or above. From official statements it seems new SMIC fabs are all 14-28nm and above....I have some doubts on it....
7nm-14nm is produce in SMIC's SN1+ SN2 fabs, combined output of 70,000 wpm. Due to sanctions, current output is less than 30,000 wpm.
 

ansy1968

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Phytium's D2000 is 2 years old now.

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So SMIC has been producing 14nm since 2 years already...and only today it has been officially confirmed.

I was not able to find info on when the famous 7nm MinerVa Bitcoin Miner, analyzed by TechInsights, started production.

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Anyhow it seems that SMIC is far more ahead of what they publicy announce. Maybe they are already in limited production also with the 7nm and nobody knows it until someone does not find another 7nm chip in the open market.

I also think is a bit suspect that all these advanced DUV immersion machines that landed in China in the last couple of years are dedicated to 28nm or above. From official statements it seems new SMIC fabs are all 14-28nm and above....I have some doubts on it....
Bro I believed that the volume purchase agreement signed by SMIC from ASML are mostly NXT 2000i (2.0nm 275 wph) and NXT 2050i (1.5nm 295 wph) or even the latest NXT 2100i (1.3nm 295 wph)

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Sep 29, 2021 — NXT:2100i. 1.3 nm | 295wph. NXT:2050i. 1.5 nm | 295wph. NXT:2000i. 2.0 nm | 275wph. 1.35 NA, 38 nm. NEXT. DUV. (ArFi). Early Access. ASML.
 

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[Won the bid] Zhongke Flying Test won the bid for 3 particle measurement equipment for the Shanghai Jita characteristic process project​


According to the information on the micro-net and the bidding platform information, on September 14, the construction project of Shanghai Jita Semiconductor Co., Ltd.’s characteristic process production line announced a bid-winning result announcement. The winning bidder was Shanghai Zhongke Feixi Semiconductor Technology Co., Ltd. Particle measuring equipment.

Zhongke Feixi is a leading high-end semiconductor quality control equipment company in China. Since its establishment, it has been focusing on the research and development, production and sales of two major types of integrated circuit special equipment for inspection and measurement. The products mainly include non-patterned wafer defect inspection equipment. Series, pattern wafer defect detection equipment series, three-dimensional topography measurement equipment series, thin film thickness measurement equipment series and other products have been applied to domestic integrated circuit manufacturing lines with processes of 28nm and above.

At present, Zhongke flying test products have been widely used in domestic mainstream integrated circuit manufacturing lines such as SMIC, YMTC, Silan Jike, Changdian Technology, Huatian Technology, and Tongfu Microelectronics.

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I guess this news has been reported here. But seeing it from an official news site from China carries its own weight.

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Shanghai confirms 14-nm chips being mass produced now
By Qi XijiaPublished: Sep 14, 2022 08:24 PM

[My Comments]
Chinese official media is usually way more conservative and late than private media. If I interpret this news piece as SMIC has entered volume production with commercially viable yields, then this still is a watershed event. Majority of the Xeon servers installed in the running data centers worldwide are still at or above 14nm. Embedded microprocessors at 14nm can cover almost any application fields outside the smart phone business sector. Heck, a decent GPGPU design at 14nm would still be an awesome piece of AI enabler. It certainly can cover almost all fields of industrial, space and military applications if chips comply with prerequisites such as TDP.

If China continues progress on 7nm as the article is alluding to, I don't think it would make any practical sense for US to continue imposing semi-related sanctions on China. There is some light at the end of the tunnel to China's semi-struggle. And I can expect mass 14nm parts are going to carry 白菜价 really soon.

I have only one question to the American politicians: what is your point?

You can't expect magnet banning decision makers to have any point.
 
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