Chinese semiconductor industry

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BlackWindMnt

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One thing with domestic GPU design coming to market, will China create their own game console. Will it take 10 years somewhere in 2030s?

From what i gathered they now have:
- Storage
- CPU
- GPU

all i'm wondering is does China has domestic top level memory modules?
 

siegecrossbow

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This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

It's been pretty obvious that the US goal has been to try and cripple and undermine Chinese technological advancement, so aiming for upstream determinants of technological progress is a very natural progression.

Space station, J-20, aircraft carrier, super computer. I don't see how this will turn out any different in a decade or two.
 

ansy1968

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I think American strategy would work better if they just banned more stuff to China earlier. But they only banned EUV to all of China (before SMIC was really ready to move to 5 nm process) and banned Huawei. As such, China could still buy more equipment and all the chips until now. China has gotten a few years to figure things out. And as we've seen, China is figuring things out.
Sir, China had many leverage to use especially its rare earth and that ambiguity helps her, As the American had little understanding of what level the Chinese IC are, Hubris play a big part, the half assed restriction is born out of belief that the Chinese will be taken out immediately thinking like the Japanese before them with a much higher tech level will easily acquiescence. So there is a racial factor in their decision making.
It seems like the next step is for America to force TSMC away from supplying Chinese chip designers. Which means in a couple of years, TSMC will lose the entire Chinese market and have a bunch of fabs sitting around doing nothing. One thing is for sure. TSMC is going to lose its monopoly of sub 16 nm market. Nvidia is going to lose its monopoly. And at the pace we are going, Qualcomm and AMD are next.
Sir they want to control what to sell and what not too, If TSMC place its production of 3nm and 2nm chips in its Arizona FAB, then they will allow TSMC to sell their 5nm and 7nm Chips to the Chinese, part of the plan of having China 2 generation behind. strategy.
 

sunnymaxi

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Space station, J-20, aircraft carrier, super computer. I don't see how this will turn out any different in a decade or two.
we have countless examples.

dirt poor and starving China build nuke powered Submarine in 60's with full blockade from USSR and USA.

ICBM , satellite , supercomputers , navigation system , it took China just 2 years to produce own atomic clock in navigation system.

imagine what can China do in 2022 with complete industrial foundation. LOOL

US didn't learn lesson from previous sanctions
 

olalavn

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This stacking of current nodes, will be very interesting when those chips inside the final products come onto the scene.

If the specs and how it will work in the final product are accurate, then this could change the IC game a lot.

The single chip from an advanced node is still a more elegant solution. But that is just another way of saying that the chip stacking will make the advanced node seemed over-engineered.

As a general rule, as a non-engineer, I believe anything over-engineered, has limited value.

Let's see how popular those end products with chip stacking turn out to be. Putting them into Huawei cell phones initially, will be putting the best face forward.

:)
next year, SMIC will use new method, and Polysiliicon to manufacture chip reduce chip temperature... i hope it will reduce temperature when stacking chip
 
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