Do you have a source for this? First time I hear this.ASML signed agreement to have a certain percentage of US tech inside EUV, not to mention what US could do to Netherland.
Do you have a source for this? First time I hear this.ASML signed agreement to have a certain percentage of US tech inside EUV, not to mention what US could do to Netherland.
Remember, SMIC 7nm was discovered not from SMIC official news (even though they had something like that) but because of some tech publications dissecting a bitcoin miner.Not comparing it to anyone. Just saying they don’t have it. There’s EDA, other ancillary processes but the core components remain foreign. The gap feels like it’s widening
DARPA form a consortium SEMATECH with ASML and TSMC to create and funded an EUVL to challenge the Japanese dominance. Now they want to recreate the same situation with CHIP 4, will they succeed, a big NO, the reason, aside from having a huge market, the Chinese are playing catch up and will employ a whole nation approach like what DARPA did to the Japanese.Do you have a source for this? First time I hear this.
Well Chinese institutions had been developing EUV technologies for quite sometime so ASML should be worry in case of any potential disruption coming from China, having a monopoly on EUV is the only way for ASML to profit from the technology and any competitor will cheapen the technology.China is not able to manufacture DUV systems even remotely competitive with anything ASML sells. While ASML would undoubtedly like to sell its EUV systems to Chinese companies, they most certainly aren't losing any sleep over worries about a potential Chinese EUV rival in the next 5 years.
There's no economic way to leapfrog DUV and go straight into EUV. It took ASML 10 years to go from a EUV prototype to a machine capable of high volume manufacturing. By the time they made the first prototype they were already a market leader in DUV immersion. There are simply too many critical technologies that need to be mastered on DUV before being able to move on to EUV that make leapfrogging attempts a huge risk.
Especially a disruptor like a SSMB.Well Chinese institutions had been developing EUV technologies for quite sometime so ASML should be worry in case of any potential disruption coming from China, having a monopoly on EUV is the only way for ASML to profit from the technology and any competitor will cheapen the technology.
Yes, ASML scanners are made to work with Gigaphoton or Cymer light sources. So in theory with a bit of effort can be make to work with other light sources too. And in theory there could be the option of converting dry scanners into immersion scanners with a lot of effort, but that have to be a collab between ASML, ICRD, CHEERTECH (the immersion part) and the fabs. But I don't know if the effort is worth it because SMEE dual stage scanners are around the conner. But is an option for ASML to keep their China business running.Can you just swapped a component like that?
From a historical perspective, In 2015, the plan of the Sun Yat-sen University to double its computing capacities of the Tianhe-2 supercomputer were stopped by a U.S. government rejection of Intel's application for an export license for the CPUs and coprocessor boards!I expect the next step will be the ban of TSMC advanced foundry services for Biren, Baidu, Alibaba and siblings. It is a necessary step to avoid that the banning of NVIDIA and AMD backfires hugely, as many people here have already pointed out.
Banning TSMC and Samsung for serving Chinese customers is one of the main reasons of Chip 4 Alliance existence and the only thing, together with the banning of ASML EUV, that can be effective in forcing, by 2024-2025, a 2-3 generations gap between Chinese and Western companies.
I really hope that SMIC new 7nm capacity will be big enough, because very soon it will be greatly needed.
After US killed the future of AMAT, LAM Research and in general of US semi equipment in Chinese market, this will mark the end of NVIDIA too. But US administartion seems to have already accepted and even embraced the idea of total decoupling in semiconductor and digital market.