Chinese semiconductor industry
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There is no US tech whatsoever. They do it under Biden term. By the time Trump comes back 2024 or Pompeo 2024, it's too late
I feel japanese maybe better chance than Chinese academy of science because they have better tools and equipment to do the R&D
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Really, a lot of Chinese throw around "bipartisan on anti-China" a lot, as if the tech bans will continue. US politics is a lot more nuanced than saying both Dems/Repubs sound tough, ergo they do the same exact policies. Clinton was a fierce China hawk too, at least he was during the debates. Clinton later sold radiation harden chips to China and approved China to WTO and MFN.
Expect Biden to sound tough on China in the debates and after 12 mons when everyone forgot about trade war, he will remove a lot of restrictions on Huawei, SMIC, Tencent, Tiktok, etc.. Average Americans voter have a memory span of a goldfish, and those think-tanks screaming China murder will be ignored per usual.
Expect Biden to sound tough on China in the debates and after 12 mons when everyone forgot about trade war, he will remove a lot of restrictions on Huawei, SMIC, Tencent, Tiktok, etc.. Average Americans voter have a memory span of a goldfish, and those think-tanks screaming China murder will be ignored per usual.
Politicians always make promises in the electoral campaign, and after going to government, a lot of times they dont fulfill them. This is a reality in all countries, not just the US.
How does imposing Executive Orders (easily overturned by Biden) make it "Political Untenable" ? It doesn't even require Congressional Support.
It's like saying Trump withdrawing from WHO, Paris Climate Agreement, UN Human Rights council via executive decisions, trying to make it "Political Untenable" for US to re-engage in multilateralism again.
The average American voter has a memory of a goldfish, Trump got voted out. He has zero influence in future policy making, esp. Biden's executive orders can overturn what Trump did without needing any approval from Congress.
Trump himself overruled the Obama Iran deal with executive order. Biden can do the same to all of Trump's executive orders.
With regards to the EUV machine, yes, this is a way for China to both get EUV tools and undermine the monopoly of ASML/Cymer in the EUV lithography tool segment. The Japanese developed (recently) a light source but currently have no client base for it as ASML is already firmly established. The Japanese also dominate the other part of EUV lithography i.e. the masks/pellicles. Those are currently all manufactured in Japan I think. So it is possible to make EUV lithography with no US technology but only Japanese. I think China should pursue this to at least try to break the EUV monopoly even if it doesn't work for them long term and they go with fully native suppliers in the long run.
If Japan would develop their light source to SMEE that would be great news, but I kind of doubt it since Japan is a vassal state of the US to an even greater degree than a lot of Europe is.
With regards to the EUV machine, yes, this is a way for China to both get EUV tools and undermine the monopoly of ASML/Cymer in the EUV lithography tool segment. The Japanese developed (recently) a light source but currently have no client base for it as ASML is already firmly established. The Japanese also dominate the other part of EUV lithography i.e. the masks/pellicles. Those are currently all manufactured in Japan I think. So it is possible to make EUV lithography with no US technology but only Japanese. I think China should pursue this to at least try to break the EUV monopoly even if it doesn't work for them long term and they go with fully native suppliers in the long run.
If Japan would develop their light source to SMEE that would be great news, but I kind of doubt it since Japan is a vassal state of the US to an even greater degree than a lot of Europe is.
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easy to build a Biden is a Chinese puppet argument if Biden overturns trumps policies on China.
The Japanese basically want to use Chinese Money to build a EUV Machine. Then get the Chinese to buy the machine from them. Later on when the US sanctions this venture, China will lose everything.
This is not a good idea from Chinese perspective.
The only way this would be viable is for the Japanese to transfer technology or arrange licensed production of the light source. Then the entire EUV Machine should be produced in a joint venture with SMEE in a factory in China.
China in this case has the upper hand as it has the market for this machine. The Japanese know that only Chinese FABs will buy this machine.
The Japanese also know fully that if the Chinese manage to develop their own EUV Machine, the Japanese Lithography Machine Industry will go into terminal decline.
If 50-50. The IP of that EUV is held by both party I believed. Chinese side would have a copy
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